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so here is the trend for gradual price increase vs gpu type / codename.


This die are of similar size for different architecture:


GF116 - GK106 - GM206 - GP106

GF114 - GK104 - GM204 - GP104

GF110 - GK110 - GM200 - GP102



And here is the chart on above similar group vs price. (Reference pricing is used to induce standardization)

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Now the price increase trend is much more clear. rolleyes.gif
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Who cares about any of that? What are we, 12?

If you buy a card just because it's a 'flagship' product and the 'latest and greatest', then you're buying it for a very stupid reason and the wrong reason to begin with. You'll soon find yourself in a vicious, neverending cycle of having to upgrade every time something new comes out.

Buy it because it fulfills your current needs for gaming or whatever else it is that you do. That's what it's made for.

The 1080 is a hell of a card and will remain a hell of a card long after Titan releases because it is a great performer. Period.

1080 is great card, but its price is only justified if it remains the top-dog.
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Originally Posted by guttheslayer View Post

so here is the trend for gradual price increase vs gpu type / codename.


This die are of similar size for different architecture:


GF116 - GK106 - GM206 - GP106

GF114 - GK104 - GM204 - GP104

GF110 - GK110 - GM200 - GP102



And here is the chart on above similar group vs price. (Reference pricing is used to induce standardization)










Now the price increase trend is much more clear. rolleyes.gif

We've seen price increases over the years on every single product in existence, why not electronics?

Flagship GPUs have been roughly the same price for around a decade (prior to the first titan), they were bound to see a price increase. It sucks but the value of a dollar is becoming less and less.
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We've seen price increases over the years on every single product in existence, why not electronics?

Flagship GPUs have been roughly the same price for around a decade, they were bound to see a price increase. It sucks but the value of a dollar is becoming less and less.


Not so when the duration between blue bar to green bar is just 60 months. Market inflation alone isn't this bad from 2011 to 2016.
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We've seen price increases over the years on every single product in existence, why not electronics?

Hard drives have seen a steady and significant drop in $/GB over the last 15+ years.

Same with SSDs as they've gotten bigger and faster.

Same with RAM as they've gotten bigger and faster.


How many PC components have seen a drastic increase in price the way GPU's have?
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Not so when the duration between blue bar to green bar is just 60 months. Market inflation alone isn't this bad from 2011 to 2016.

Yes but the prior 120 months had basically no price increases. Instead of doing the price increase gradually like most companies, they did it in two quick jumps.

A soda from a soda machine was 75 cent 10 years ago, now it's 1.75. Over double. A flagship GPU cost about $650 10 years ago, now it costs $1200. Groceries are the same way, they are basically double the price that they were 10 years ago. Many many products have doubled in price over the last 10 years (or decreased in size), it's just the way our economy is.

I don't think it's as bad as some people make it out to be. People make a lot more money on average than they did 10 years ago because the value of a dollar is less. Minimum wage is higher, etc.
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Hard drives have seen a steady and significant drop in $/GB over the last 15+ years.

Same with SSDs as they've gotten bigger and faster.

Same with RAM as they've gotten bigger and faster.


How many PC components have seen a drastic increase in price the way GPU's have?

If you want to use $/gig, then you need to compare to $/gflop. You think the 8800GTX had more $/gflop than a Pascal Titan X? No the Pascal Titan X is a far better value when compared like that. We are paying absurdly less for each gflop than we did when the 8800GTX released. By a crazy amount...

That comparison does not work.
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Yes but the prior 120 months had basically no price increases. Instead of doing the price increase gradually like most companies, they did it in two quick jumps.


The problem is, they might do that big jump every generation if there is no competition. just saying.


So that 10 years no inflation become invalid for that senarios



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I don't think it's as bad as some people make it out to be. People make a lot more money on average than they did 10 years ago because the value of a dollar is less. Minimum wage is higher, etc.

I wish this true. Real income has more or less remained the same since 2000. (if anything it's actually very slightly decreased)

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The problem is, they might do that big jump every generation if there is no competition. just saying.


So that 10 years no inflation become invalid for that senarios

If the next card is more than $1200, i'll be right there with you. I don't see myself spending more than that on a GPU.
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I wish this true. Real income has more or less remained the same since 2000. (if anything it's actually very slightly decreased)


That's depressing if true, I guess it doesn't apply to me because I definitely make more than I did 10 years ago.

Prices have almost doubled though, at least around here. I remember when I could fill a grocery cart for $100-$150. Now it's like $400.
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If you want to compare $/gig, then you need to compare $/gflop. You think the 8800GTX had more $/gflop than a Pascal Titan X? No the Pascal Titan X is a far better value when compared like that.

It's easier to churn out gflops now than it was 10-15 years ago, no?
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