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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

I find this very worrying. Everything points to them sweeping this card under the rug very quickly.
- Exclusive to NVIDIA.com, seemingly forever. Has never happened to my knowledge.
- Basically the same title as the past titan, as if they didn't even bother to get a new name.
- Announced at a college, not at some well known event.
- Almost no advertisement, unless you actively follow hardware you would never know this existed - even after it launches. Most people won't know there's two different Titan X, and I bet lots of people will accidentally buy the old Titan X.

I'm still just confused as to why they are even releasing this Titan now, so soon after the 1080. I argued there was no way we would see a new Titan in 2016 and was proven wrong but the argument was based on the idea that Nvidia has no reason to do this. Their only competition at the top is themselves so why hurry to rush this thing out the door when they can soak all the enthusiasts with the 1080 for the rest of the year and then turn around and get them again next year with a new Titan? Releasing it now ensures that many customers who would have bought both a 1080 and a new Titan will just skip the 1080 and they will lose out on an easy sale. Its even more curious when you consider the shortages of 1080's and the fact that to this day it can still be a challenge to even get a hold of one. I would almost expect the new Titan to be nearly vaporware considering its limited availability through Nvidia themselves and GP104's scarcity since launch (yields on GP104 are sure to have been much higher than GP102)...
post #2542 of 3587
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

I find this very worrying. Everything points to them sweeping this card under the rug very quickly.
- Exclusive to NVIDIA.com, seemingly forever. Has never happened to my knowledge.
- Basically the same title as the past titan, as if they didn't even bother to get a new name.
- Announced at a college, not at some well known event.
- Almost no advertisement, unless you actively follow hardware you would never know this existed - even after it launches. Most people won't know there's two different Titan X, and I bet lots of people will accidentally buy the old Titan X.

I'm still just confused as to why they are even releasing this Titan now, so soon after the 1080. I argued there was no way we would see a new Titan in 2016 and was proven wrong but the argument was based on the idea that Nvidia has no reason to do this. Their only competition at the top is themselves so why hurry to rush this thing out the door when they can soak all the enthusiasts with the 1080 for the rest of the year and then turn around and get them again next year with a new Titan? Releasing it now ensures that many customers who would have bought both a 1080 and a new Titan will just skip the 1080 and they will lose out on an easy sale. Its even more curious when you consider the shortages of 1080's and the fact that to this day it can still be a challenge to even get a hold of one. I would almost expect the new Titan to be nearly vaporware considering its limited availability through Nvidia themselves and GP104's scarcity since launch (yields on GP104 are sure to have been much higher than GP102)...
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Maybe they looked at demand for the 1080 and said why are we taking $700 when we could be taking $1200. There will still be plenty of buyers for the 1080 even if they cream off the highest spenders for the Titan.

DING DING DING!

i mentioned before of 1080 supply issues - they can't keep them on the shelves. so now nvidia has found a way to get that money plus 58% more.
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$1200 is also sufficiently above $700 that there's no risk of cannibalizing the 1080's market.

Also to make a $850+ 1080 Ti look like a good deal down the road I suppose.
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That's assuming they can release any more than 1000 Titan XP's. I expect the shortages of the 1080 to pale in comparison to the shortage of these new Titans. Can't make money on something you can't produce any of. And again, why offer potential 1080 buyers a choice? Make them buy 1080's now and then make them buy a new Titan next year. That way they buy everything rather than having the option to skip the 1080 altogether...
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nVIDIA is releasing this card now because they are also going after a different crowd from gaming, killing two birds with one stone so to say....I mean, they have to do something with those failed chips.....hope that I can get one... smile.gif
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I'm still just confused as to why they are even releasing this Titan now, so soon after the 1080. I argued there was no way we would see a new Titan in 2016 and was proven wrong but the argument was based on the idea that Nvidia has no reason to do this. Their only competition at the top is themselves so why hurry to rush this thing out the door when they can soak all the enthusiasts with the 1080 for the rest of the year and then turn around and get them again next year with a new Titan? Releasing it now ensures that many customers who would have bought both a 1080 and a new Titan will just skip the 1080 and they will lose out on an easy sale. Its even more curious when you consider the shortages of 1080's and the fact that to this day it can still be a challenge to even get a hold of one. I would almost expect the new Titan to be nearly vaporware considering its limited availability through Nvidia themselves and GP104's scarcity since launch (yields on GP104 are sure to have been much higher than GP102)...

Honestly, I think they just need to get some patterns in their releases.

If it was my business:
- I would release the Titan first. This makes sense, as it means more people will buy your flagship.
- After a month or so, I would release the "non-Ti" versions for your average gamers.
- After half a year or so, I would release the "Ti" versions with the top end one being similar performance to the Titan at a lower cost.
- After another half a year or so, we'd be back to releasing the next Titan and the cycle would repeat.

To me this fixes many of the problems, people know exactly what the "top" card is for the year. There would be no need to second guess your purchase, as you'd know exactly whats happening in the future. However, I think NVIDIA does this on purpose. No patterns, and complex out of the blue releases means more impulse buys and double dips.
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While you guys are speculating about pricing and such .. How is that going to work on the 2nd of August? I will receive an e-mail from Nvidia. I would have to fill up the order straight from their website ASAP?biggrin.gif

Titan X is so much better than a SLI setup. thumb.gif Thank you Nvidia! I returned my 1080 FTW to NCIX!

It's going to sell out before those notifications get sent I bet.
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Honestly, I think they just need to get some patterns in their releases.

If it was my business:
- I would release the Titan first. This makes sense, as it means more people will buy your flagship.
- After a month or so, I would release the "non-Ti" versions for your average gamers.
- After half a year or so, I would release the "Ti" versions with the top end one being similar performance to the Titan at a lower cost.
- After another half a year or so, we'd be back to releasing the next Titan and the cycle would repeat.

To me this fixes many of the problems, people know exactly what the "top" card is for the year. There will be no need to second guess your purchase, as you'd know exactly whats happening in the future.
It's going to sell out before those notifications get sent I bet.

How do I get on the VIP list? Just refresh their website like a maniac until it is available? lol
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How do I get on the VIP list? Just refresh their website like a maniac until it is available? lol

You download something that refresh a website every few seconds and detects changes. As far as I've heard, the Titan releases 6am PDT on Tuesday but I have no idea where that figure came from.

I expect their site to very slow.
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

Honestly, I think they just need to get some patterns in their releases.

If it was my business:
- I would release the Titan first. This makes sense, as it means more people will buy your flagship.
- After a month or so, I would release the "non-Ti" versions for your average gamers.
- After half a year or so, I would release the "Ti" versions with the top end one being similar performance to the Titan at a lower cost.
- After another half a year or so, we'd be back to releasing the next Titan and the cycle would repeat.

To me this fixes many of the problems, people know exactly what the "top" card is for the year. There would be no need to second guess your purchase, as you'd know exactly whats happening in the future. However, I think NVIDIA does this on purpose. No patterns, and complex out of the blue releases means more impulse buys and double dips.
It's going to sell out before those notifications get sent I bet.

This is the second time you're saying this, and I still agree with you.
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You download something that refresh a website every few seconds and detects changes. As far as I've heard, the Titan releases 6am PDT on Tuesday but I have no idea where that figure came from.

I expect their site to very slow.

Mur.. Thanks man! I'll be ready! thumb.gif
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