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So, what with being exceedingly greedy with this launch - what's the betting they haven't done anything to try and ensure the site doesn't go down in under 5 minutes.


Probably quite high.

Actually a good point, since you only have one source to buy the cards from this could be quite problematic for buyers.
 
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bandwidth and ram are pretty much irrelevant, both cards have enough to feed themselves and not suffer VRAM shortage, past that there is no gain

it only has 40% more cores and 50% more ROPs, that does not translate into 40-50% direct performance increase at equal clocks

This is not always true. Better bandwidth can come into play at extreme resolutions such as 4k and especially VR over 6k with its high refresh rates and AA requirements.
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40% is possible. More TMUs, more cores, more bandwidth, so even though it probably won't clock as high clock for clock it will scale better as you OC it.

IIRC GTX 1080's voltage is capped in a relative low value. That may be not so for Titan XP, thus actually allowing for even higher clocks given the right cooling.
Also last gen many of Titan Xs could well hit 1500+ clocks which was pretty much the range of the GTX 980/970s as well (very few surpassed the 1600 Mhz) mark.

So it's not impossible to expect this card to be a clocker as well despite the higher Core count...
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IIRC GTX 1080's voltage is capped in a relative low value. That may be not so for Titan XP, thus actually allowing for even higher clocks given the right cooling.
Also last gen many of Titan Xs could well hit 1500+ clocks which was pretty much the range of the GTX 980/970s as well (very few surpassed the 1600 Mhz) mark.

So it's not impossible to expect this card to be a clocker as well despite the higher Core count...

Voltage cap doesnt really mean anything as people are not gaining any clock speed with higher voltage on anything but subzero cooling.
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Why are you expecting it to OC a lot? I would be pleasantly surprised if it can clock higher than the 1080s.

I'd be pleasantly surprised if it can manage >2GHz on air.
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I just tried 11.5GHz in Witcher 3 and the fps went from 65 to 71 from the stock 10GHz, bandwidth matters a lot ona 64 ROP/2500 sp card. I figure it will matter on a 96 ROP/ 3500sp card too.

Anandtech seems to have gotten quite different results:
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When you guys say "bandwidth", do you mean "memory bandwidth"? Because Pascal (or GP104 at least) barely responds to memory bandwidth improvements:



http://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review/31
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Voltage cap doesnt really mean anything as people are not gaining any clock speed with higher voltage on anything but subzero cooling.

I would think water would benefit somewhat too ...
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I'd be pleasantly surprised if it can manage >2GHz on air.

It was relatively routinE for Titan X to do 1500+ which was close to the limit of maxwell on air/water anyway. What makes you think that Titan XP won't manage equally well? Remember those are binned chips, those not doing too well would probably end up 1080tis
Edited by Steven185 - 8/1/16 at 9:12am
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Another lawsuit against Nvidia. This time in regards to the GTX 980/900 series. Like I said before, perhaps this is why they jacked up prices? rolleyes.gif
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4vn1ax/another_class_action_lawsuit_980/
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It was relatively routinE for Titan X to do 1500+ which was close to the limit of maxwell on air/water anyway. What makes you think that Titan XP won't manage equally well? Remember those are binned chips, those not doing too well would probably end up 1080tis

I don't think Titan XP uses binned chips, unless by binned you meant "failed Quadro specs". tongue.gif

The absolute best 1080s top out at around 2200 on air or water, which is 27% OC if we use nVidia's listed boost clock of 1733. Titan XP's listed boost clock is 1513 MHz, and 27% over that is 1922 MHz.

Plus the stock blower isn't exactly breaking any records when it comes to performance.
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Another lawsuit against Nvidia. This time in regards to the GTX 980/900 series. Like I said before, perhaps this is why they jacked up prices? rolleyes.gif
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4vn1ax/another_class_action_lawsuit_980/
So I'm eligible 3 times for buying a 970, 980 and a 980Ti? Can I claim this as a European, it doesn't mention anywhere.....
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I would think water would benefit somewhat too ...

All I have seen is people getting the same results as air cooling just at lower temps. All the professional overclockers are saying the same thing, water cooling adds no MHz gain on Pascal. People that have done the hardmod for voltage adjustment aren't getting more than a few MHz extra at best.
But then you have people on LN2 like Kingpin getting 2.8GHz thumb.gif So the potential is there. Maybe there are just a lot of dud cards out in the wild and that is contributing to the bad clocking on water problems.
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