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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

I want to make an impassioned plea to the members of this forum.

$1200 for a video card is simply too much. It really is. You know it... I know it... everyone knows it.

If you're thinking about getting this card, please... don't. Just let it go and wait. If no one buys this card, the price will drop, and when it does, the market will stabilize and become less one-sided. The fact that Nvidia has dropped this card so close to the launch of the GTX 1080 means something is up. I'm not sure what, but lets face it. The GTX 1080 is a stupidly fast card for what it does. There is no reason to go ahead and dethrone it unless AMD or even Nvidia does not have another move coming very soon.


$1200 is too much. Please don't buy the Pascal Titan X. redface.gif

This market target that Nvidia and Intel are targeting don't care how much they pay. Nvidia can get away and sell those cards $10,000 a piece and those people will still buy it. The only way to make Nvidia lower prices is competition from AMD and unfortunately there is no competition to force them to lower the price.
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Or they continue to tout the 1080 as their Flagship and position the Titan XP as a Halo card. That could happen, too.

I will tell you one thing. Nvidia isn't going to release a 1080 Ti with 6GB of VRAM, and it would be a first for Nvidia to release a "Ti" counterpart with the same memory as their current Titan.


I stand by my theory that the Titan XP is the 1080 Ti.

I think pretty much everyone that understands nVidia's GPU history has agreed that Titan XP is indeed the 1080 Ti in disguise.
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This market target that Nvidia and Intel are targeting don't care how much they pay. Nvidia can get away and sell those cards $10,000 a piece and those people will still buy it. The only way to make Nvidia lower prices is competition from AMD and unfortunately there is no competition to force them to lower the price.

I'd wager the ceiling for a single GPU card is somewhere around $2000. Remember Titan Z at $3000 was a huge fail, so there IS a ceiling, we just haven't hit it yet.
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The 680 is where the scam started. 680 kept the name but lost the big die and cost full flagship prices ($499).

Titan took it way further. Cut-down flagship, new name, significant price increase.

The scam then spread to the 780. An even more cut-down version of a 570 for $659.

Then to the 980. Same garbage as the 680 but $50 more.

Then to the 2015 Titan X. Titan price tag but missing Titan features (no compute).

1080. Same garbage as the 680 but now costs $699!

Titan X 2016. Exact equivalent of a GTX 570 but for $1200.


Every release we keep getting less and less but pay more and more. All they're doing is shifting a few names.

This isn't the end. Expect a Titan Ultra in the near future and they will officially push the Titan envelope even further by giving us Titan features at a much higher price. Don't be surprised if Titan X Ultra costs $1399-$1499.
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Please tell me you're joking. HBM2 is more expensive than GDDR5x. Why would Nvidia release a lower-tier card with better tech for less money?
Are you considering buying this Titan X?
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I think the Ti will come with 8GB of HBM2.

Then Ti can't be on the GP102 chip, you can't design a chip to both accept HBM2 and GDDR5X, hence why GP102(GDDR5X) vs GP100(HBM2)
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Are you considering buying this Titan X?

I have dual 1070's at the moment, so you tell me.
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The 680 is where the scam started. 680 kept the name but lost the big die and cost full flagship prices ($499).

Titan took it way further. Cut-down flagship, new name, significant price increase.

The scam then spread to the 780. An even more cut-down version of a 570 for $659.

Then to the 980. Same garbage as the 680 but $50 more.

Then to the 2015 Titan X. Titan price tag but missing Titan features (no compute).

1080. Same garbage as the 680 but now costs $699!

Titan X 2016. Exact equivalent of a GTX 570 but for $1200.


Every release we keep getting less and less but pay more and more. All they're doing is shifting a few names.

This isn't the end. Expect a Titan Ultra in the near future and they will officially push the Titan envelope even further by giving us Titan features at a much higher price. Don't be surprised if Titan X Ultra costs $1399-$1499.

They have no reason to stop when people still buy it. Simply math of supply and demand.
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I have dual 1070's at the moment, so you tell me.
I'm not a psychic.
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what? let me look at that i didnt know those details were released

Yeah, that's what I am reading on page 10 of the document. They mention the fully enabled GP100 being 3840, while our Titan and Tesla friend here has less than that (page 11 even admits to this.)

I'm willing to bet this is indeed that same style of die salvaged from the Tesla (you're totally right on that,) and either GP100 has GDDR5X support, or this is some new GP102 die with the same core count and GDDR5X support. It would be a little odd for GP100 to do both HBM and GDDR5X...

Given the core diagram, I don't think Nvidia would cook up a new 56 SM die just for the Titan when they have a perfectly good 56 cut down 60 SM pattern to use.
Edited by Omicron - 7/21/16 at 10:24pm
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I'm not a psychic.

And I'm not a fool.

No, I'm not planning on purchasing a Titan XP.
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