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Originally Posted by magnek View Post

I think he probably means a "soft throttle" algorithm baked into the bios that starts dropping a boost bin or two once the GPU passes a magical threshold.

On Maxwell, that soft throttle point was 64C, and I always wondered by my 970s would drop a/few boost bins after they passed 64C, even though that temperature was absolutely no cause for concern.

Boost bins drop with temperature because maximum frequency at a set voltage drops with temperature (transistor drive strength decreases as temperature increases). The boost tables are programmed such that virtually all GPUs produced can sustain those boost clocks at those temperatures, along with headroom to account for aging over the expected lifespan of the product.
post #2762 of 3587
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Originally Posted by looniam View Post

Observations on Clocking with Pascal


however, not representative of all cards based on the feedback on the 1080 owner's thread.

Pascal bios tweaker can't come soon enough.
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Boost bins drop with temperature because maximum frequency at a set voltage drops with temperature (transistor drive strength decreases as temperature increases). The boost tables are programmed such that virtually all GPUs produced can sustain those boost clocks at those temperatures, along with headroom to account for aging over the expected lifespan of the product.

For Maxwell it wasn't a dynamic process. Once it hit 64C it would drop a boost bin or two, but would stay there until it hit the actual thermal throttling point, which was 82 or 83C I believe.
Edited by magnek - 8/1/16 at 5:34pm
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For Maxwell it wasn't a dynamic process. Once it hit 64C it would drop a boost bin or two, but would stay there until it hit the actual thermal throttling point, which was 82 or 83C I believe.

Maxwell boosts are more conservative, from what I see. I think Pascal went overboard with the boost for a gaming product. Short-term boosts aren't beneficial at all... except in marketing.
post #2764 of 3587
True. I can confirm on my Gigabyte 1080 AIO my 2138mhz overclock would go down like 10mhz twice going from low 30's C idle to mid 50's C load on benchmarks. Maxwell wouldn't start doing that until like 80C (FYI I returned that POS Gigabyte card the pump was horrendously loud and most likely defective).

This generation of GPU is more reliant on AIO or full liquid cooling than ever to maintain highest boost clocks.
post #2765 of 3587
In for 2. Then have them sit there in a box until the EK blocks also arrive.

Lets be honest though. I think everyone buying these knows what they are getting. Yes they are expensive, but they are also the single fastest GPU that you can buy right now. Some people are okay with the price for that, some are not. The nice thing is everyone has a choice.

I have not kept up with the 1080's though, how did they do with OC when you would put them under water? my current TX's that are getting swapped out held rock solid under water.
     
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Maxwell boosts are more conservative, from what I see. I think Pascal went overboard with the boost for a gaming product. Short-term boosts aren't beneficial at all... except in marketing.

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True. I can confirm on my Gigabyte 1080 AIO my 2138mhz overclock would go down like 10mhz twice going from low 30's C idle to mid 50's C load on benchmarks. Maxwell wouldn't start doing that until like 80C (FYI I returned that POS Gigabyte card the pump was horrendously loud and most likely defective).

This generation of GPU is more reliant on AIO or full liquid cooling than ever to maintain highest boost clocks.

More to do with GPU Boost 3.0 than anything I bet.

Also why I said Pascal bios tweaker couldn't get here soon enough. If it was up to me, I'd have it running one voltage and one clockspeed all the time until it hit 95C. biggrin.gif
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Planning on getting one after all. We'll see, but I hope to be pretty happy with the jump from the original Titan X.
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I think you mean the reverse of what you typed and if you did, Yes they will.
You should probably read about Pascal a little more then. Boost 3.0 is completely different. And there is still no way to increase power target on these cards yet. Pascal starts throttling at like 55C or something crazy. 100% won't get you there.

Ah really? That's a bummer.
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I've heard that Nvidia wont be providing there partners (Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA etc) access to this card for non-reference models... What do you guys think of this? Good or bad idea?
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I've heard that Nvidia wont be providing there partners (Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA etc) access to this card for non-reference models... What do you guys think of this? Good or bad idea?

Exclusivity is always bad for consumers.
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