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Originally Posted by DarkIdeals View Post

That's not gonna be a problem. It's at 26,660 at stock GPU boost performance which is likely around ~1,550mhz or so (maybe 1,575 - 1,590mhz at most, and that's pushing it honestly. Assuming no manual OC of course which it highly looks like stock judging from the paper specs compared to 1080)
Didn't read the whole post, first line right there made me want to point out that the TXP in that videocardz article was running at 1800mhz apparently, see the text below the chart.
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post #2822 of 3587
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I'm sorry but that's just not true. You should really go back and check out past flagships. The ONLY past Nvidia flagship that even came close to the size of like the GK110 or GM200 etc.. on the original TITAN, TITAN BLACK, 780, 780 TI, 980 TI, TITAN X etc.. is the GTX 480 with its 529mm2 die size, and the subsequent tweaked GTX 580 which was just a 480 with bug fixes. The 580 shrunk a tad down to 520mm2. And 520mm2 is actually just as close to, say the GTX 980's ~390mm2 die size as it is to the 600mm2 size of the TITAN BLACK or TITAN X Maxwell.

Other than that, EVERY other flagship GPU has been WAY smaller than ANY of the TITAN cards. The GTX 285 was a 470mm2 die size, the Nvidia 9800 GTX was only a measly 324mm2 die size! Even the unprecedented 8800 Ultra was only 480mm2 size and was just as expensive as the TITAN as the time and nearly impossible to get a hold of. The 7900 GTX and co. were only 196mm2 tiny little things!


It's just not true that the TITANs are some new phenomena and that we are now getting x60 series cards labeled as x80 cards. The fact of the matter is it literally wasn't POSSIBLE to make a die that big (~600mm2) until Nvidia moved to the 28nm node and was getting skilled enough to deal with bad yields. The GTX 680 was originally intended to be the literal max full Keplar flagship at the time. The engineering team members have specifically stated that they never thought it was possible to make a card like the OG TITAN when Keplar first launched. Unfortunately things like dark silicon and even worse yields do limit the size of this 14nm TITAN somewhat, but it's still a pretty decent bump especially on a brand new node only a few months into production.

No no no no no no just no.

Prior to GM200, GT200 (used on the GTX 280) was also a monolith at 576mm². In fact, it's the second largest die in nVidia's history, right after GM200 @ 601mm². (well 3rd largest now that GP100 is 610mm² I suppose)

Not to mention GK110 itself was pretty beastly at 561mm². So:

GP100 = 610mm²
GM200 = 601mm²
GK110 = 561mm²
GF110 = 520mm²
GT200 = 576mm²
G80 = 484mm²

The GTX 285 you quoted at 470mm² is in fact just the 55nm die shrink of the original GT200 on 65nm. And how exactly is 520mm² numerically or percentage-wise just as close to 398mm² as it is to 601mm²?

As for your comment about dies being small before the G80 era. Well, I hope you realize G80 was nVidia's first big die (>400mm²), so obviously anything that came before G80/8800 GTX would have a die size not exceeding a certain size.
post #2823 of 3587
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Didn't read the whole post, first line right there made me want to point out that the TXP in that videocardz article was running at 1800mhz apparently, see the text below the chart.

Boost, not base. And I don't see why we'd assume the 1080 wasn't boosting as well during an intense benchmark. They just didn't point it out.

They also OC'd the 1080 for one baseline while the Titan was never OC'd (at least it was never indicated it was).

They state quite clearly that it's 30% gain over stock 1080 and 13% gain over OC 1080. Don't know for certain, but my guess is they didn't OC it due to cooling concerns.

30% stock/stock is about what most of us have been expecting, I think. Still believe it will scale better when you OC it due to the increased specs, also, but you'll need better cooling for that. Expect 40%, or thereabouts, max OC vs max OC.
Edited by Viveacious - 8/1/16 at 10:41pm
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Originally Posted by GenoOCAU View Post

Looks like im holding onto my 980ti.. it does 24k graphics in firestrike no problem. frown.gif

Im skeptical of what TX can do under water given everything is so locked down with GPU Boost 3.0.
That's a nice score, Kingpin edition?
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Didn't read the whole post, first line right there made me want to point out that the TXP in that videocardz article was running at 1800mhz apparently, see the text below the chart.
1800 is just stock boost though. No overclock was applied.
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We're getting the full review today right? Still have the strix 1080 oc on backorder (current eta for sept), maybe the Titan will be available sooner but i'm curious if the price difference is worth the perf difference.
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so this is gonna be an nvidia store exclusive and only come in reference?

i mean is there a possibility this could have custom coolers and a evga SC edition like the Maxwell titan x had?
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so I got ~77% (100/1.3) worth of the new Titan X for ~$550 less (and earlier) by buying a 1080 thumb.gif

not bad, not bad redface.gif



P.S. and the 30% increase is at 4K, at 1440p (where I game at) it might even be closer to only 25%
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The huge good looking blockbuster games are all on PS4 : Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, Final Fantasy XV, Gran Turismo Sports, God of War IV, Detroit : Become Human, Final Fantasy VIII Remake
its not that bad as far as Im concerned

U4 - good game yes, but mostly for a 1 time cinematic story experience
HZD - looks good, but not out yet, maybe its actually a turd with boring repetitive gameplay
FF15 - looks like crap tbh to me .. at least tech-wise on consoles .. and there has been talk of PC version later potentially and Square released virtually all Final Fantasies in Steam, so ...
FF7 Remake - again not confirmed to be a true PS4 exclusive, only coming out their first .. XB1 & Steam versions likely later
GT Sports - I havent been impressed by GT since the 5-th and IMO Forza 6 is just as good at minimum and Forza Horizons are much more fun
GoW 4 - looks good yes
Detroit - looks good


as for PC - the biggest reasons for hardware are running multiplats at Ultra/high res/high refresh rates

and there are impressive looking exclusives like Star Citizen, the new Unreal Tournament, maybe Law Breakers, Escape From Tarkov
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so I got ~77% (100/1.3) worth of the new Titan X for ~$550 less (and earlier) by buying a 1080 thumb.gif

not bad, not bad redface.gif



P.S. and the 30% increase is at 4K, at 1440p (where I game at) it might even be closer to only 25%

Given that people in here overclock you actually got 70% of Titan's performance for your money (clock per clock the two seem to be 45% apart). So yeah, you did get yours cheaper but not by a significant amount (you paid 55% of the price for 70% of the performance), top performance is paid dearly this is pretty much known.

Then again you're a 1440p gamer so you did the right choice, many of us are 4K gamers so the GTX 1080 does not cut it even if it was 1/3rd pf the price (less than 60FPS in most games maxed)...
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