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hmm, was waiting for the P titan to release but i'm not impressed by this at $1200. This is more along the lines of what i expected for a 980ti replacement. I usually upgrade when a single gpu is >= my current gpus. Will have to wait and see what the benches show.
    
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So it's a cut card for 1200$? The full card would have 3840 if I am correct?

damn ...
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post #523 of 3587
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you are right but that was when nvidia was still new to Titan idea, maybe there weren't exactly sure where to fit it in, i don't think it's ever happening again, as evident with later Titan releases.
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Go back to school mate rolleyes.gif

Geforce Titan

6GB Vram
2688 Cuda Cores
Core Clock 837Mhz
Boost Clock 876Mhz

780Ti

3GB Vram
2880 Cuda Cores
Core Clock 875Mhz
Boost Clock 928Mhz

Geforce Titan Black

6GB Vram
2880 Cuda Cores
Core Clock 889Mhz
Boost Clock 980Mhz

780Ti was faster than Titan because 290X was faster than the Titan, It(a Ti that is faster than a same gen Titan) will happen again if Vega beats Titan X 2016, but I doubt that will happen(though I hope it does).
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post #524 of 3587
And this is exactly why we need AMD to release high end cards.

Completely honest this new Titan X could've very well been the GTX 1080 for half that money if AMD had something to compete.

If this card was full fat 3840 cuda cores and 16GB of HBM2 or something I could understand 999$ for it and a Titan name, but a cut card with GDDR5X for 1200$ ... nah come on
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the 980Ti/Titan X owners waiting to upgrade, having passed the 1080, will stampede over each other to get this

Nope
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of course some will still hold out for 1080Ti/big Titan/Vega/Volta

Yep


edit: Separately I already thought the Pascal cooler looked like the Tumbler, but now it is in black too




Edited by CasualCat - 7/22/16 at 6:08am
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post #526 of 3587
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but I doubt that will happen(though I hope it does).
Vega would need to be ~x2,2 times faster than 480 8GB just to match this new Titan X and more than that to beat it (if my rough math is correct)


the 6144 shaders Vega could certainly be up to that task .. but that large a card might be too much to ask for from AMD and its 14nm FinFET (im still not clear if Vega uses 14nm GloFo or not)
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And this is exactly why we need AMD to release high end cards.

Completely honest this new Titan X could've very well been the GTX 1080 for half that money if AMD had something to compete.

If this card was full fat 3840 cuda cores and 16GB of HBM2 or something I could understand 999$ for it and a Titan name, but a cut card with GDDR5X for 1200$ ... nah come on

I think that's kind of the point. nVidia has been able to release a much faster product over their previous generation, WITHOUT having to resort to HMB2. They didn't neeed it. They released a good product at very competitive prices (except for Titan X price). While AMD is still trying to figure out HMB2, nV is reaping the most benefits it has with better GPUs and existing memory interfaces. Everybody's whining about why it doesn't have HMB2 like the new Teslas (I just read about it) when they didn't frankly needed it. They're gonna milk the GDDR5/X cow as much as they can, sell some Titan X to bleeding edge lovers with a lot of money while AMD takes the hit and hopes HMB2 will make up for their slow releases. They're probably letting the tech mature, the manufacturing become cheaper, and then adopt it. The HMB2 only seems to make sense to nVidia in the highest segment with Teslas where people don't see the pricetag.

It may be something similar to x64 in the old days. Intel said "meh" while AMD came up with the tech and soon catched up and surpassed Intel. Intel then adopted the tech and eventually wiped the floor from AMD again...
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Nvidia have no obligation to you to keep price acceptable, they have a obligation to increase value for their shareholders hence they raise the price when lack of competition from AMD allows them to. You seem to misunderstand how a for-profit company works.

Without going too far off topic, I'll just say this.

 

There is a reason why Toyota shares are $54.86 and Ferrari shares are $42.89.

 

If they lower the price to something a bit more affordable, they will make less profit per card, but they will also sell more cards which in some cases gives them more profit. 

 

Obviously I'm not saying they should sell the new Titan X for $200, but $1200 is ridiculous.

   
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Without going too far off topic, I'll just say this.

There is a reason why Toyota shares are $54.86 and Ferrari shares are $42.89.

If they lower the price to something a bit more affordable, they will make less profit per card, but they will also sell more cards which in some cases gives them more profit. 

Obviously I'm not saying they should sell the new Titan X for $200, but $1200 is ridiculous.

And Nvidia is still closer to Toyota than Ferrari (I hate car analogies in computers...) as they have a range of products from ultra high end/high end (Lexus ) to mid/low end (Toyota ).
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This card seems pointless if you arn't putting it under water, cause the pascal cooler struggles with the 1080, it's got no hope with this card.
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