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Doubt a $1200 TX will lower the price on used 1080's.

I guess they're thinking there will be more used 1080's on the market than you'd normally have at this point. Guess it depends though how many people go from a 1080->TitanX$

edit: I suspect it'll be a really small number of an already small market.
Edited by CasualCat - 7/22/16 at 10:13am
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That is the point I am emphasizing alot. lol.


SLI 1080 is an extremely good deal when TX is just 25% faster yet cost the same as a pair

But SLI is a nightmare at times, very rarely gets close to 100% scaling, sometimes doesn't work at all, etc.

If someone sat there and had 2 1080s in one hand, and the new titan in the other, I'd choose the titan everytime. Nothing beats the "smoothness" and stability of a single GPU.
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I guess they're thinking there will be more used 1080's on the market than you'd normally have at this point. Guess it depends though how many people go from a 1080->TitanX$

edit: I suspect it'll be a really small number of an already small market.
Probably so. A very small percentage of folks will sell their 1080's for the TX. I could sell my 1080 FTW but I have a feeling that Nvidia will release a Ti and or another TItan early next year. Be a lot easier to sell the 1080 than a TX.
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I'm not even buying this card, but I get tired of the "omg you guys are terrible and ruining the market" attitude like the inability to have the halo product of an enthusiast hobby is like kicking a puppy. I think the price is high, so I won't buy it... If you don't like the price, then don't buy it. If enough people feel the same way Nvidia will adjust accordingly, but you or I don't get to decide value for others.


Unfortunately in a monopoly (which is what we have here because AMD is no competitor) that's not exactly how it works. Price elasticity changes to almost 0 when you have a monopoly for a product.


Basically no matter how much the price changes demand will stay the same, because we HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. In the High end market there is no other choice and you can tell by the price changes over the last 3 generations of cards. I have 3 systems in my room alone. I can AFFORD a 1080, 1070, and a Titan, but I won't dare give them a penny at this point. They're doing exactly what a monopoly does and raising prices to increase profits to the maximum potential. It is awful for a consumer.



For the love of God Samsung or IBM buy AMD already. Consumers are getting REAMED!

The worst part is with all the price gouging on "Founders Edition" etc. stuff, the price to performance ratio basically hasn't changed, it's all just in line with the 970 now.

The 1080 costs twice as much, and usually performs twice as well.
The 1070 costs 50% more, and usually performs 50% better.
If you bought a 970 for more than MSRP then these will be very slight upgrades, but until the cards drop to MSRP they're basically not an upgrade in performance per dollar. Anyone with a 970 has utterly no reason to buy anything new, unless they just have money to burn.

I'm most eagerly waiting to see the AMD 470 launch, if it really does cost $150 and it really is within 15% of the performance of the 480, that's basically in line with what you would have got if the 1070 were $300.
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As with every launch, apparently everyone is a marketing expert trying to tell Nvidia why they are wrong or dumb or otherwise unpleasant to their perspective buyers
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This was their trend for the longest time honestly, except the Titan didn't exist. The Titan makes sense honestly, but only if it is the un-ecc version of the Quadro/Tesla with similar memory amount, and unnerfed compute functions. Oh, and cap it at $1000 at the most.

Look, a Titan should not be trying to sneak up into the Quadro price territory. $1,200 is not $4,000 yet, but just you wait... if I spent that much, I'd buy a frigging Quadro.

You say that but in reality, you're not going to just buy a Quadro unless you need one. You either need Quadro features or you don't. No one in their right mind would spend $4000 and buy a quadro just because it's oh just "a little" more expensive than a titan. $1200 is easily still out of range of a $4000 quadro.
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I'd consider a GP102 Titan X, assuming there isn't another single GPU card of near enough performance out by the time I'm ready to buy, and I would never spend anywhere near $600 dollars on any single socket motherboard, any non-redundant PSU, or any case.

Typically, when I buy a top tier card, it's half the budget of my entire build.
I wouldn't count on it, but I'd definitely like to see some images of the PCB.
I'll wait a month or so if a release is imminent, but beyond that I don't fuss over timing overly much, and buy what I need to get the performance I need when I need it.

I want to move back to a single GPU setup, but I've ruled out the 1080 and everything below it because the most demanding game I currently play works well with CFX and my 290Xes more or less match a single 1080. More VRAM would be nice, but I'm not going to spend 600-700 dollars so I can run higher texture quality.

Unless there is a 1080Ti on the horizon the Pascal Titan X may be the only card that may fill all my check boxes in the immediate future...just need to decide if it's worth what they're asking.
GTX 780 is big Kepler. Same GK110 GPU as in the 780 Ti and original Titan.

The 680 was the GK104 part.
Intel did the same thing with the Pentium. They needed a catchy name for their fith generation x86 part and Pentium fit the bill. They then used it for the next four generations of high end consumer parts, and still use it for lower end parts. Pentium implies five/fifth, but we have the name attached to 11th generation CPUs because of brand recognition.
Well, the 980 is faster in quite a few areas and by the time the 980 was released 4GiB of VRAM was tangibly better than 3GiB, all other things being equal.
Yes.
I find this to be a silly premise.

You have the performance you have, no matter how it compares to the best. If that performance is not enough, then one should have waited, if it is enough, then something better showing up is not of great concern.

Not silly at all. People don't wait, you've said this in the same post I'm quoting lol.
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But SLI is a nightmare at times, very rarely gets close to 100% scaling, sometimes doesn't work at all, etc.

If someone sat there and had 2 1080s in one hand, and the new titan in the other, I'd choose the titan everytime. Nothing beats the "smoothness" and stability of a single GPU.

They need to redefine this damn SLI tech from the ground up IMO. It should work transparently to the system. There must be a way the system detects the paired GPUs as a single one, having a higher bandwidth communication between GPUs. PCI 3.0 bandwidth isn't saturated I think so a single 16X slot should be able to drive two damn cards. I dunno, I haven't had SLI in the past because all the trouble it seems to be, I always end up upgrading to a newer card instead of finding a cheap one to make a pair.
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Not silly at all. People don't wait, you've said this in the same post I'm quoting lol.

I said I don't wait if I need and if what I need is available.

If I need something that isn't available, I must wait. I didn't seriously consider getting a GTX 1080 because it would not have filled my need for a decisive single card upgrade.

If I don't need, I am free to wait until I do. If I had a Pascal Titan, it would fill my needs, and a better GPU showing up five minutes later would do nothing to change that.
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