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Hate to say it, but I am starting to wonder if HBM2 can be delivered cost effectively for AMD this year.

We may see only a GDDR5X fight considering NV have decided to adopt it for such a high end part.

It's probably more important that NVidia not combine HBM with an aging arch. They are saving HBM2 for Volta which should be way more robust for longevity. I would jump at that for 1500. A GPU to endure 5 years!
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It's probably more important that NVidia not combine HBM with an aging arch. They are saving HBM2 for Volta which should be way more robust for longevity. I would jump at that for 1500. A GPU to endure 5 years!
Finaly someone with common sence, ofc HBM2 is for next generation, as i said Pascal is inbetween generation, which doesn't need that, since there is monopoly.
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It's probably more important that NVidia not combine HBM with an aging arch. They are saving HBM2 for Volta which should be way more robust for longevity. I would jump at that for 1500. A GPU to endure 5 years!

That is probably at least some of the truth of the matter. I would say, though, that the probability of killing a good die with HBM is pretty high - if you have a great yielding part you can kill it at the interposer process. If you already have low yields, which I think it is common knowledge that FF is especially lower yielding at higher density and clocks, I'm sure they saw no reason to potentially kill good die with the increase in performance and improved thermal envelope.

I played around with a GTX 1080 for a week or so and GDDR5X was fast enough to give me 75 FPS in Doom @ 4K, so I was happy. The TXP (new moniker?) will do well.

Might need to pick up an +100Hz 4K display when they are available.

thenIsoldthe1080becauseIgotboredwithit
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WOW!! Already?? August?

Guess we have a chance for 1080Ti before 2017 if things will go like that. 1080, 1070, 1060 is here, TITAN X basicelly in next two weeks.

Gimme that 1080Ti already biggrin.gif

But really, there must be something going on if TITAN X is already here.
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WOW!! Already?? August?

Guess we have a chance for 1080Ti before 2017 if things will go like that. 1080, 1070, 1060 is here, TITAN X basicelly in next two weeks.

Gimme that 1080Ti already biggrin.gif

But really, there must be something going on if TITAN X is already here.

Maybe Vega is closer than we think, so they can't afford to milk ppl with midrange chip in 1070/80 for long. Or maybe they will get the Titan out now to milk ppl until Vega is released, when they will introduce 1080ti.
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It's probably more important that NVidia not combine HBM with an aging arch. They are saving HBM2 for Volta which should be way more robust for longevity. I would jump at that for 1500. A GPU to endure 5 years!

Wouldn't last 5 years. After 2.5 years it'll be run of the mill. After 4 years it will be slow. And by 5 years, graphics cards built around single powerful GPUs will be things of the past as cards with multiple, smaller GPUs working as one will offer the top performance.
    
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Wouldn't last 5 years. After 2.5 years it'll be run of the mill. After 4 years it will be slow. And by 5 years, graphics cards built around single powerful GPUs will be things of the past as cards with multiple, smaller GPUs working as one will offer the top performance.

Well, with the way semiconductors are going, the best optimizations we will see will probably be software driven to take more advantage of the hardware we have. I mean, we just got off of the 28nm train just this year.. we have been riding it for a while because we thought we would move to 20nm. We only just cheated 20nm planar by using 20nm FinFET (which is what 16 and 14nm really are, just re-measured).

I think with the hope for 4K and VR driven consoles, we might be able to see a greater longevity from even our current architectures with these new processes. Don't trust the slides when they say 10nm is on the way... they said the same thing about 20nm many years ago and it never came.

But it is true, multi-, low-latency, interconnected GPUs are the future for PC and consoles alike. We should no longer be concerned with SLI/CFX because we won't need the technologies anymore.

Yay for perfect scaling. tongue.gif
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So can we expect reviews of the Titan XP in the next two weeks ?
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So can we expect reviews of the Titan XP in the next two weeks ?

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So can we expect reviews of the Titan XP in the next two weeks ?

It would be nice if we could see some benchmarks run by the students that got free ones at Stanford..

Unfortunately, they are probably too busy being enslaved to their research advisors to play any games.

There's really not any good precedent for when the benchmarks will release at this point. If it launches on the 2nd, what you say might be true.
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