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Mainly #3. He likes the good stuff.
Who wouldn't like in that position? lol
Cash flows from every direction biggrin.gif tables full of money.
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Darn, thought I'd be ready to sell my Titan for a Titan but if this Titan is really just a slightly chopped down Tesla then that's too bad. But still if it's 45-60% gain on the old X, that's tempting. $1200 is a bit ouch, though...
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Darn, thought I'd be ready to sell my Titan for a Titan but if this Titan is really just a slightly chopped down Tesla then that's too bad. But still if it's 45-60% gain on the old X, that's tempting. $1200 is a bit ouch, though...

If you don't mind me asking, what games and at what resolution are you playing to justify the purchase? Or is it other reasons?

I'm curious.
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Can someone explain to me how AMD's Vega is going to get anywhere near this? I don't expect that to be faster than a 1080 in some DX11 games let alone this beast.

I know Vega is a different arch and is meant to be on a different manufacturing process to Polaris, but Polaris shows in some ways that GCN 4 scaled up might not be very close to Pascal at all. So what is the thinking in how Vega gets anywhere near this?
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Can someone explain to me how AMD's Vega is going to get anywhere near this? I don't expect that to be faster than a 1080 in some DX11 games let alone this beast.

I know Vega is a different arch and is meant to be on a different manufacturing process to Polaris, but Polaris shows in some ways that GCN 4 scaled up might not be very close to Pascal at all. So what is the thinking in how Vega gets anywhere near this?

That depends on Vega's die size really. If its a 450+ mm^2 chip it should land somewhere between the 1080 GTX and the new titan. Exactly where would depend on clocks.
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Titan XP at 1K really does not make any sense considering GTX1080 FE @ $700. That would mean Titan XP has better P/P which should never be the case.
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time to get of my old titans x

I'd gladly take them from you biggrin.gif
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That depends on Vega's die size really. If its a 450+ mm^2 chip it should land somewhere between the 1080 GTX and the new titan. Exactly where would depend on clocks.

I think the more important thing will be how they scale rops, rbes and shaders at this point. Judging by memory overclocking on Polaris it seems faster memory will definitely help, and Vega will be entirely different due to arch tweaks, memory interface, and hopefully a different node.

A similar hardware spec'd part of GCN 1.4 in comparison to the 290X/390X would likely be around Fury X performance with slightly higher clocks ~ 1200mhz. If Vega 11 ends up being essentially 2xp10 in terms of shaders but with more rbes and rops (96 hopefully), it will definitely be somewhere in between the 1080 and new Titan X. Meanwhile a smaller Vega 10 will probably end up being in between the 1070 and 1080. If all goes well I'm expecting the AMD counterparts for the 1070, 1080, and Titan will all be around -5 to -10% performance in DX11, and end up surpassing them by the same amount in DX12/Vulkan titles. AMD simply doesn't have the budget or means to go for an entirely new architecture at this point; primarily budget and relying on GCN for consoles.
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Can someone explain to me how AMD's Vega is going to get anywhere near this? I don't expect that to be faster than a 1080 in some DX11 games let alone this beast.

I know Vega is a different arch and is meant to be on a different manufacturing process to Polaris, but Polaris shows in some ways that GCN 4 scaled up might not be very close to Pascal at all. So what is the thinking in how Vega gets anywhere near this?

If upcoming Vega only has 4096 stream processors as rumored, it would compete against 1080, not Titan.
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If upcoming Vega only has 4096 stream processors as rumored, it would compete against 1080, not Titan.

AMD are so incompetent with strategy that somehow their first Vega card will release and the Titan P and 1080 Ti, both faster, will be already available on the market.
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