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Maybe they looked at demand for the 1080 and said why are we taking $700 when we could be taking $1200. There will still be plenty of buyers for the 1080 even if they cream off the highest spenders for the Titan.

You really think so? I mean, $700 is already really expensive for a flagship card and I would guess that the majority of those that would spring for it over a 1070 are the same type of buyers that would have no issues with paying $1200 for the fastest card ever made. The 1080 is simply priced too high for the casual gamer to pay for it and the type of enthusiast that would drop $700 for epeen wouldn't think too hard about spending more (however much more really) for, again, the fastest card made so they can post up all their shiny new bench,arks and lord it over all of the "plebs" who can't afford such an extravagant expense. I know because I used to be one of those guys when I bought my Titans. I predict that 1070 sales will go through the roof once this new Titan releases with the 1080 kind of twisting in the breeze. Really, why spend so much money on a card that no longer can claim to be the fastest?
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I'll wait for the Titan X Ti with HBM2... and a spare $1500

I have a feeling they think AMD can compete on the high-end with Vega this fall.
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post #863 of 3587
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I'll wait for the Titan X Ti with HBM2... and a spare $1500

I have a feeling they think AMD can compete on the high-end with Vega this fall.

I WANT to see AMD competing at the high end. It would keep prices in check and encourage faster development.

I'm still on a 780Ti on air. Waiting to decide what to buy from the Pascal generation for my new WC build. Will it be a 1080? Will it be a Titan X (Pascal)? I'll wait until I see some benchmarks from the Titan before deciding.
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Here 1060 with 2050Mhz is almost 10% faster than RX 480 with 1350Mhz ( This Link ) , So Can AMD bring Vega with 4096 Core running at 1350Mhz ? and can it compete again GTX 1080 or even Pascal Titan X ? The thing is that Nvidia is playing with People's Mind with Overclocking.AMD should bring crazy OC into Vega but i think it's not possible.

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I think Polaris had silicon issues, and that it should have had much higher clocks near than Pascal.

I would assume AMD fixes this for Vega.
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This thread is heaving lol.

People overcook theads...Overall titan x overpriced...people writing serveys and what not
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You really think so? I mean, $700 is already really expensive for a flagship card and I would guess that the majority of those that would spring for it over a 1070 are the same type of buyers that would have no issues with paying $1200 for the fastest card ever made. The 1080 is simply priced too high for the casual gamer to pay for it and the type of enthusiast that would drop $700 for epeen wouldn't think too hard about spending more (however much more really) for, again, the fastest card made so they can post up all their shiny new bench,arks and lord it over all of the "plebs" who can't afford such an extravagant expense. I know because I used to be one of those guys when I bought my Titans. I predict that 1070 sales will go through the roof once this new Titan releases with the 1080 kind of twisting in the breeze. Really, why spend so much money on a card that no longer can claim to be the fastest?

I'd say if there's one thing you have to give Nvidia credit for, it's their ability to read the market. With the exception of the Titan Z, they seem to have done a pretty good job of pricing cards as high as they can while still selling a good number of them. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on the market for both a $1200 and a $700 card. But considering the new Titan is Nvidia store only, maybe they don't really expect to sell that many of them (while still taking the retailers cut also).
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Well, I guess I'd kick myself for spending $1K on a card only to see a better one come out 90 days later, which isn't completely a matter of e-peen. But e-peen or not, expensive GPU's are showing their age after a few years where as other pursuits like good audio will maintain. It's true that a top card from 2012 will max a 2012 game just as well now (maybe even better) as it did back then but will a top 2012 card max a 2016 game on a 2016 monitor? Vintage audio can be awesome, vintage gpu's not so much is all I'm sayin'. My next $600-$1,000 indulgence will be good speakers to pair with my 1983 Yamaha Receiver. I may not be able to max the graphics on BF1 but I bet it will sound amazing smile.gif

Oh I see, yes I do try to buy the 'right' card for me in each generation, generally that is the best one but I don't want to buy too often so I wait for the big die. Still, in some ways only GPUs are still like this in computers. When I started hobbyist computer building I had a 486. Nothing had any relevancy three years later. Now, even for video cards, a top of the line from three years ago is still pretty good. New games are completely playable at 2560x1440 with reasonable settings, not max but not minimum either.

For CPUs at three years old they are still pretty much top of the line. frown.gif

I suppose my point is that this is computers for you, it is actually about the same as it has always been or slowing down. I do have to agree though, if you don't have great audio equipment already it is a longer term purchase, skip one generation of GPUs and have great audio for the next 20 years. wink.gif

Though they are trying for planned obsolescence there too, we up to 7.1 now. Nothing from 10 years ago supports any of the new audio formats. I think the next (UHD TV) will be 22.2 or something?
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You really think so? I mean, $700 is already really expensive for a flagship card and I would guess that the majority of those that would spring for it over a 1070 are the same type of buyers that would have no issues with paying $1200 for the fastest card ever made. The 1080 is simply priced too high for the casual gamer to pay for it and the type of enthusiast that would drop $700 for epeen wouldn't think too hard about spending more (however much more really) for, again, the fastest card made so they can post up all their shiny new bench,arks and lord it over all of the "plebs" who can't afford such an extravagant expense. I know because I used to be one of those guys when I bought my Titans. I predict that 1070 sales will go through the roof once this new Titan releases with the 1080 kind of twisting in the breeze. Really, why spend so much money on a card that no longer can claim to be the fastest?

You know, I'd bet you a round of beer that the number of OCN members who literally can't afford a $1200 GPU (afford as in can't buy with either cash or credit) are probably quite small. As I mentioned to someone else there's a difference between not being able to (literally) afford something, versus somebody not buying something because the price is retarded to them.

Also those who would drop $700 for epeen would trample over each other to buy the $1200 card, so those are pretty much guaranteed sales. The Titan XP at $1200 also is priced sufficiently above the 1080 that it doesn't really affect it much at all. For a 71% to 100% increase in price you get a paltry 25-30% increase in performance, so Titan XP only appeals to those who want the absolute best regardless of cost.
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Oh I see, yes I do try to buy the 'right' card for me in each generation, generally that is the best one but I don't want to buy too often so I wait for the big die.

This is where I'm at. I generally try to buy the best card in each gen, but the lines have become so blurred its hard to know when to buy. Sure we have this new Titan X, but there will be a 3840 core 16 GB card sometime down the line. Probably after AMD releases something. It will also probably be $1500, which is more than a bit absurd. It's hard to say anymore. I'd like a card that matches my 980 Ti SLI in a single GPU, which this one will probably do or get close. However it sucks to spend $1200 to have a better one come out in 90 days.
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