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My prediction is that OC vs OC, Titan XP will likely only end up ~40-45% faster than a single 980 Ti, so you're gonna have to wait for Volta for a single card that will truly match your 980 Ti SLI setup, assuming typical 70-80% SLI scaling.
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I'd say if there's one thing you have to give Nvidia credit for, it's their ability to read the market. With the exception of the Titan Z, they seem to have done a pretty good job of pricing cards as high as they can while still selling a good number of them. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on the market for both a $1200 and a $700 card. But considering the new Titan is Nvidia store only, maybe they don't really expect to sell that many of them (while still taking the retailers cut also).

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You know, I'd bet you a round of beer that the number of OCN members who literally can't afford a $1200 GPU (afford as in can't buy with either cash or credit) are probably quite small. As I mentioned to someone else there's a difference between not being able to (literally) afford something, versus somebody not buying something because the price is retarded to them.

Also those who would drop $700 for epeen would trample over each other to buy the $1200 card, so those are pretty much guaranteed sales. The Titan XP at $1200 also is priced sufficiently above the 1080 that it doesn't really affect it much at all. For a 71% to 100% increase in price you get a paltry 25-30% increase in performance, so Titan XP only appeals to those who want the absolute best regardless of cost.

You guys may well be completely right and given my abysmal prediction record as of late I wouldn't believe myself if I said water was wet at this point! Oh well, win some, lose some... redface.gif
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My prediction is that OC vs OC, Titan XP will likely only end up ~40% faster than a single 980 Ti, so you're gonna have to wait for Volta for a single card that will truly match your 980 Ti SLI setup, assuming typical 70-80% SLI scaling.

Well that would certainly be disappointing. No question they could pull it off with Pascal and 16 nm. If they don't it's because they choose not to. This card may not do it, but there will almost certainly be better 16 nm Pascal based cards following this Titan XP.
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This is where I'm at. I generally try to buy the best card in each gen, but the lines have become so blurred its hard to know when to buy. Sure we have this new Titan X, but there will be a 3840 core 16 GB card sometime down the line. Probably after AMD releases something. It will also probably be $1500, which is more than a bit absurd. It's hard to say anymore. I'd like a card that matches my 980 Ti SLI in a single GPU, which this one will probably do or get close. However it sucks to spend $1200 to have a better one come out in 90 days.

I think I will probably get this one, that card will be the "real Titan" but it won't really be much faster. I try for the best performance I can get but at 5% below the top I can be ok, not worth the extra $. I do wish this was a full die though. tongue.gif

You also have to consider release dates, if the next generation is 15 months away getting it now instead of in 3 months is an extra 25% time using the GPU. wheee.gif
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I think I will probably get this one, that card will be the "real Titan" but it won't really be much faster. I try for the best performance I can get but at 5% below the top I can be ok, not worth the extra $. I do wish this was a full die though. tongue.gif

You also have to consider release dates, if the next generation is 15 months away getting it now instead of in 3 months is an extra 25% time using the GPU. wheee.gif

I agree on all accounts. That was the big bonus to getting an OG Titan vs a 780 Ti for example. You got that performance 6 or 7 months early. I also don't always buy the biggest. I did buy Titans but did not buy Titan X. Wasn't worth the extra cash over 980 Ti. I'm gonna wait this out for a while and see what happens. I'm too busy with work the next 2 or 3 months to spend that kind of cash on something I won't have the time to use anyways.
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For me it looks like my upgrade path from OG Titans will probably be far cheaper as I no longer have the interest in paying such amounts for video cards when $400 cards like the 980Ti and 1070 easily fit the bill for everything I want to do on a PC right now. Might pick up a couple of 980Ti Classy's for less than $900 and call it a day. Won't be at the top of the bench charts anymore but will certainly be able to play everything maxed out at 1440p for the foreseeable future...
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For me it looks like my upgrade path from OG Titans will probably be far cheaper as I no longer have the interest in paying such amounts for video cards when $400 cards like the 980Ti and 1070 easily fit the bill for everything I want to do on a PC right now. Might pick up a couple of 980Ti Classy's for less than $900 and call it a day. Won't be at the top of the bench charts anymore but will certainly be able to play everything maxed out at 1440p for the foreseeable future...

dude even a single 980ti has no problems maxing out 1440. jpmboy just put his poseidon on the market for 399 and you know he takes care of his gear. plus being a poseidon its already water friendly.

i was looking at it myself but then . .well would be time to invest in a good water kit . . another~$300 and $150+ for a case - too much just to "replace" my crappy card.
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dude even a single 980ti has no problems maxing out 1440. jpmboy just put his poseidon on the market for 399 and you know he takes care of his gear. plus being a poseidon its already water friendly.

i was looking at it myself but then . .well would be time to invest in a good water kit . . another~$300 - too much just to "replace" my crappy card.

I know one would be enough but it would be a downgrade from two OG Titans and i always run two cards anyway because of my TJ11 (which looks ridiculous with only a single card in it)...
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I will probably buy this new titan x , im playing at 4k, i could buy the 1080 instead but im in fear to be disappointed, i really want most games at 4k 60fps .

About HBM2 vs GDDR5X. Will it be a real significative world performance difference in gaming between this titan with gddr5x at 480gb/s and hbm2 at 540gb/s for 12gb with bus at 3084 bit? Except the increase in price, i dont think 60gb/s difference could make a real difference. I dont talk about 16gb at 4096bit, because before this announcement i was targeting a titan with 12gb hbm2 at 3084bit. Why pay 1500$ for a hbm2 titan at 12gb and 540gb/s? Its not worth it, maybe thats the reason why nvidia release it with gddr5x instead

Thanks for your opinion
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I think I will probably get this one, that card will be the "real Titan" but it won't really be much faster. I try for the best performance I can get but at 5% below the top I can be ok, not worth the extra $. I do wish this was a full die though. tongue.gif

You also have to consider release dates, if the next generation is 15 months away getting it now instead of in 3 months is an extra 25% time using the GPU. wheee.gif

Honestly if this Titan came with HBM2 the $1200 price would be somewhat more bearable, but of course that would only happen in dreamland.

I guess my simple rule of thumb for upgrading is that whatever I upgrade to needs to be at least 50% than what I own currently, and I do mean OC vs OC of course since I watercool. Ignoring the lack of HBM2 and the price for a second, I would actually be pretty surprised if this new Titan X could consistently deliver 50% over a 980 Ti @ 1500/8000 across all games. (keeping in mind that a 980 Ti @ 1500/8000 is pretty much on par with a stock 1080)
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For me it looks like my upgrade path from OG Titans will probably be far cheaper as I no longer have the interest in paying such amounts for video cards when $400 cards like the 980Ti and 1070 easily fit the bill for everything I want to do on a PC right now. Might pick up a couple of 980Ti Classy's for less than $900 and call it a day. Won't be at the top of the bench charts anymore but will certainly be able to play everything maxed out at 1440p for the foreseeable future...

Maxwell doesn't voltage scale worth a damn on air/water, I'd just buy the cheapest 980 Ti's (used for new) you can find and call it a day. No point paying the Classy or Lightning premium.
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