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Yeah i rather wait for a bios mod instead of going with the Clu mod. Never really liked this kind of mods.
But im really tempted to push this card high.

Will wait another month to see if there will be some bios mod before trying the clu mod.

Best I hit is 2050 before getting curbstomped by power limit on water. Sounds like you won the silicon lottery!
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Xpost from [H], but I thought I'd share my own thoughts on the Titan here too (it's long, sorry):

TL;DR: FPS numbers down slightly going from 980ti SLI setup to a single Titan XP, but play experience just as good, if not (circumstantially) better. I could easily make a case for sticking with the older setup, however, if money were tight.


Got my Titan X today. As sad as it seems, it was sitting in the box, ready to be installed, and I was thinking about sending it back (or selling it). The reason is that I was running "before" benchmarks most of the afternoon with my 980ti SLI setup, and quite frankly, it had never run so well.

Thanks to what I had read in one of the threads on Overclock.net, I found that most of my issues with Witcher 3 and other games was due to a weird problem rendering in-game AA. It was giving me horrible GPU utilization rates (80-90% on one, 50-60% on the other in TW3) and therefore a terrible experience. When I disabled it, all of the games I've been playing worked flawlessly.

The Witcher 3 ran at slightly better than 60 fps, and that was with almost every single bell and whistle enabled in 4k (including maxed out hairworks and 4x hairworks AA), OTHER than standard AA, which was disabled. I was blown away, quite frankly. Same experience when I loaded up Dragon Age Inquisition (but the frames were slightly better there). Emerald Graves area was giving me better than 70 fps, and everywhere else was routinely hitting >90. Even Crysis 3 (fully maxed) ran anywhere from 56-61 in the very unscientific "benchmark" I tried to run by just playing the game for a bit from a certain save. Heaven benchmark gave me an average of 64 fps.

The single game that still gave me issues was Black Desert Online. In this, with "high end mode" enabled, I was still getting anywhere from 33-40 fps in Calpheon (pretty heavy graphically), and my GPU utilization was pretty poor. I place the blame on this on the game itself, which is likely a crappy port of the original Korean developer's work.

It's blasphemy, I realize, but I started thinking maybe I should just stick with my current setup for now. My primary motivation with this move was to get to a single card solution that would take care of my needs, and give me enough rendering power to deliver a solid 4k experience.

But I reasoned that, even if the 980ti's are giving me solid numbers, I'd really love to get rid of the headache and inconvenience of a dual card setup, so I cracked open the Titan and fired it up for a comparison. Here were my results:

I didn't do a whole lot of bench testing in games with the Titan at stock clocks. The only reason I didn't install the EK block on it before even putting it in the PC is to make sure the card isn't defective (and not a complete OCing dud). After some tweaking, I was able to get +180-185mhz stable in Heaven benchmark, but later had to nug that down to about +175 to be stable in all games (the witcher 3 crashed after about 20 minutes at +180). I ran at 100% fan to enable this OC, and even at that it was clearly begging for more power, cooler temps, and more voltage. All things that a water block and custom BIOS will give me.

So here were my results, juxtaposed with the 980ti SLI numbers. Keep in mind these tests weren't very scientific, and I didn't exactly follow prescribed courses through the game while benching. Vsync always off for tests.

980ti SLI (1477mhz each)/Titan XP (+175mhz offset)

Heaven 4.0 Bench (UHD, Quality Ultra, Tessellation Normal, AA x2)): 64 fps | 55 fps
The Witcher 3 (UHD, all settings maxed, 4x Hairworks AA, no standard AA, low sharpening, no blur, no motion blur, no vignette): 61-73 fps | 54-60 fps
Black Desert Online (All settings maxed): 33-40 fps | 39-44 fps
Crysis 3 (All settings maxed, FXAA): 56-61 fps | 44-55 fps
Dragon Age Inquisition (All settings maxed, AA off): 68-72 fps | 63-65 fps

So, looking at the numbers alone, this is a little depressing. Not that I didn't realize that I was going to be taking a slight FPS hit across the board with this move (for games that support SLI). What really blew me away, however, was that the actual gameplay experience seemed just as good, if not better, on the Titan.

You may be saying that this is simply confirmation bias, and the scientist in me would affirm that you are probably correct. However, if I were to show gameplay to someone who knows nothing of video games for framerates, I would wager they would be very hard pressed to tell the difference between the two experiences. Frankly, in a lot of situations, though the framerate was worse with the Titan, motion seemed smoother, in general. Maybe this is microstutter at work...or maybe it's just the aforementioned confirmation bias. I've been using dial GPU setups since around 2010, so it's been a a minute since I really had a single GPU play experience.

The long and the short of this is that there really isn't a massive difference between the two. With the exception of Black Desert Online (which was noticeably smoother with the Titan), most of the games really played pretty much the same on the two setups.

So the question is, if I knew what I know now before i ordered the Titan, would I do it again? That's a tough one to answer. After selling my 980ti's used, assuming I can get at least $800 with the water blocks included, it's still a $470 "upgrade" (with tax on the Titan). The thought that a 1080ti could come along in 3 months and give me 99% of the Titan X performance for 75% of the price makes me absolutely cringe. But in the end, I'm very happy with the Titan, and though the numbers may be slightly lower than I was hoping (I really wanted to be able to hit a constant 60 fps in TW3 with the OC), the Titan is butter smooth, and I'm keeping it.

My 2c
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I came from the exact same setup (funny, I also play those exact games including BDO). I had 980 Ti's in SLI. Loved them but also wanted to try a single card solution. I notice the slight performance hit in some games but the overall experience was smooth. I do not know if it was microstutter or not but all the games I threw at it just seemed like the gameplay was better. I especially noticed it in GTA V, BDO, and Witcher 3
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You damn right !!
Mine hit 2150 mhz on air and tomorrow i will install the ek wateblock but i without a mod bios im sure i will hit power limit throttling.

The clu mod its worth the effort ? i Have clu but i never used it
THat's quite the TXP you got there! thumb.gif
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That sounds like the best TXP I've read about. I'm not sure it's worth the risk to do the shunt mod, I haven't myself even though I have some too. Still debating on doing the mod. Hoping a nice bios comes to light that I can use instead.

When you get the block on, make sure you post some benchies in the benchmark section.cheers.gif
Yeah - I've been reluctant to defeat the PL with the clu mod also... no micro ohm meter and without one it really is a blind mod as far as i can tell. Much rather do it with some control using as bios editor. Which probably won;t happen until/if 3rd party manuf get the sell the card. Maybe afterburner beta 11 can help a little?
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Unfortunately I highly doubt anyone but nvidia ever sells this card. I was so used to having a custom bios available I took it for granted when I purchased my card. Hopefully someone figures it out!
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which AiO is that? I have 28 idle and about 45 load in games.
EVGAs for the 10 Series, 24 idle -50 games , also set that aio to run as intake , getting fresh air , won only 1 degree from 25 idle to 24 rolleyes.gif
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while i'm still sad i can't run 3/4 way SLI. Finally with waterblocks on in getting the perf i had (kinda) with 4way titan X(M). Even in the witcher 3 conversations i'm getting 80fps+ (all hairworks AA etc..)

i'm still confused why capturing does such massive hits to perf (ie, even lowers GPU usage.. which is odd)

but .. rock solid perf (note, that 20fps went away because of dxtory..)
I played it for a few hours (like 8) as i needed to finish Blood and wine before deux ex comes out! smile.gif (i also playing hitman with everything maxed and super sampling @ 1.6). Cards were cool and run with no problem with +175, +450
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while i'm still sad i can't run 3/4 way SLI. Finally with waterblocks on in getting the perf i had (kinda) with 4way titan X(M). Even in the witcher 3 conversations i'm getting 80fps+ (all hairworks AA etc..)

i'm still confused why capturing does such massive hits to perf (ie, even lowers GPU usage.. which is odd)

but .. rock solid perf (note, that 20fps went away because of dxtory..)
I played it for a few hours (like 8) as i needed to finish Blood and wine before deux ex comes out! smile.gif (i also playing hitman with everything maxed and super sampling @ 1.6). Cards were cool and run with no problem with +175, +450
Why not using shadowplay?
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Originally Posted by Neon01 View Post

Xpost from [H], but I thought I'd share my own thoughts on the Titan here too (it's long, sorry):

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Originally Posted by ablangc View Post

I came from the exact same setup (funny, I also play those exact games including BDO). I had 980 Ti's in SLI. Loved them but also wanted to try a single card solution. I notice the slight performance hit in some games but the overall experience was smooth. I do not know if it was microstutter or not but all the games I threw at it just seemed like the gameplay was better. I especially noticed it in GTA V, BDO, and Witcher 3

That's what you call microstutter which so many SLI owners here deny to have. You see, even with maybe lower fps on the Titan, your games run much smoother than on your old SLI setup. Win.

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EVGAs for the 10 Series, 24 idle -50 games , also set that aio to run as intake , getting fresh air , won only 1 degree from 25 idle to 24 rolleyes.gif

Normal temperatures, there's nothing wrong then?
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This is just an idea but for AIO cooling it might be possible to use this other type AIO solution. For example the Corsair HG10 980ti adapter. Here is the 1080 modification:

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showpost.php?p=856494&postcount=11

Then --> attach a Corsair H45 (or else the bigger H100i, which fits too). Finally swapping out the 120mm fans for better ones, eg Skythe GTs. Of course the drawback is not fully water-cooling the VRMs too, like is on a full water block / closed loop.

Dont have a Titan XP myself to try that on, but makes a lot of sense to me as others do it for the 1080. That is, if the EVGA's AIO solution does not appeal as much for whatever reason(s).
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