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You know what's sad? The main reason I bought this card is World of Warcraft. Those new legion graphics are super demanding at 4K. I went from ~45FPS to ~100FPS in the Hyjal coming from the previous Titan X. It's sad you need such a powerful computer to chug through that 15 year old engine, but at least the games looks good with the new graphics.
Honestly any form of AA that isn't FXAA or SMAA is likely to kill FPS at 4K. Luckily, in most titles, nothing beyond those is a big improvement.

Id have to agree. At 4K usually post process AA is enough. But those stairs nothing can help them. Also for that game in particular it does actually need the TXAA or MSAA to get rid of some jaggies. But thankfully no modern games need it. Usually DSR/SSAA will get the job done.
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I would choose 4K over 3440x1440, and I've owned both. 3440x1440 doesn't work in some games, and can be a headache. 4K simply works. It also looks significantly better.

I've never felt higher than 60FPS is worth it, in most cases I prefer to just increase AA or use SSAA. My opinion is definitely the minority though, I've gamed on my friend's 1080p 144Hz and the entire time I was like "meh" compared to 4K at home.

To be fair, 1080p 144hz is actually quite a bit worse than even 2560x1440p at 144hz, let alone 3440x1440p at 100hz+. Not that i'm discounting your opinion, in fact i'm taking it dead serious considering it's a $1300 monitor purchase.

The 3440x1440p screen you had, was it G-Sync? (i.e. was it the Acer X34 or ASUS PG348Q? SInce those are the ONLY two 3440x1440 G-Sync's out currently...although i suppose it could've been freesync?) And was the 4K monitor you tried G-Sync?

I'm just curious about the comparison of:

3440x1440p + G-Sync + 100hz + Curved 21:9 ratio VS. 4K + G-Sync + 60hz 16:9 ratio

in specific; not say "4K non-g-sync 60hz vs 3440x1440p non-g-sync 60hz" or "4K G-Sync 60hz vs 3440x1440p non g-sync" etc.. i'm looking for opinions on the difference between two completely nearly identical monitors that just differ by curvature, aspect ratio, and refresh rate and not much else.

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I started investigating after World of Warcraft started throttling the card heavy under 4x SSAA. tongue.gif

To be fair (i seem to be saying this a lot lately lol), SSAA has a downsampling effect to it, so technically you are playing at 4K if you use 4xSSAA on a 1080p monitor, or if you use it on a 1440p monitor you are playing at "10K" resolution! (10,240 x 5,760), and if you actually were crazy enough to use full 4 x SSAA on a 4K screen you'd be rendering the game with "SIXTEEN K" resolution!! (or more accurately 15,360 x 8,640)



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That's true 21:9 isn't compatible with all games but most of them work. I just like the curved screen. I can't go back to 16:9.


Yeah the curvature is actually the thing i am most interested in surprisingly lol. I even scoffed when i discovered the fact that the X34 "only" had a curvature of 3800r haha. I saw like the Z35 and such that had 2000r curves, or the LG ones with ~2300r and i was like "why?". Didn't help that even ACER REPRESENTATIVES in Computex vids for the new X34P were specifically saying "the old X34 had 2300r curve, this one updated to 1900r so it's curvier" when in fact the old ones are apparently 3800r, not 2300r.

I think the ONE thing that irritates me about 21:9 support is that Dark Souls games don't work well with it. Dark Souls 1 seems to be well enough supported using "flawless widescreen" mod, but in Dark Souls 3 (and maybe others, i don't know) there is a glitch/issue/problem (not sure if it's intended bahavior by the devs or a glitch) where the enemies that are in the outermost 1-2" of the screen right at the left or rightmost edges of the screen; will literally get choppy as all heck as if their animation suddenly lose 80% of the frames. They basically "glitch around" appearing to "float/glide" in a choppy fashion. LIke the blacksmith, if you turn the camera so he's in the edge of the 21:9 screen view, his hammering will go from smooth "uuuuupp.....doooown....STRIKE.....raiiiising uuuuup......dooooownn...STRIKE" to "Up.....*no movement*....DOWN.....*no movement*....UP...." etc..

If that could be fixed i think i'd definitely lean to 21:9 ratio. Even if the fix meant simply adding a thin ~1" to 1.5" black bar on either side so i couldn't SEE the glitchy behavior occuring. (People's theory on why this happens in Dark Souls 3 is that the dev's coded it to where enemies/NPC's etc.. only use a TINY bit of animations when you can't see them in order to save on resources so your fps doesn't tank from all the off-screen enemies being fully animated when you're completely across the area from them. Makes sense.)
 
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This is why I recommending putting your comp in another room and using extensions cables for everything, then just turn the sucker into a jet engine.

Looking forward to hearing results, I've been debating redoing TIM on mine all day.

I did exactly that and also used gefen hdmi over cat5 to get it done. Then came VR so I had to go hybrid.
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Originally Posted by DarkIdeals View Post

Speaking of afterburner. Anyone actually have voltage control yet on the TITAN X P?


try softmod by hax0ring with Afterburner
poll your cards i2c like this and check
http://www.overclock.net/t/1363440/official-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-owners-club/13400_100#post_20635197

OG titan had NCP4206, which was documented. Zawarudo made a tool to force the voltage thru afterburner
http://www.overclock.net/t/1421221/gtx780-titan-any-ncp4206-card-vdroop-fix-solid-1-325v/0_100

maybe Sheyster or Cyclops of Maxwell Titan X bioses can help share info. TXP should still be TDP limited with a forced increase in voltage through i2c interface. Unencrypted or signed bios with key needed for power, unless hardmod. Currently a voltage boost could increase TDP and give unwanted result of decreased clockspeed biggrin.gif A decrease in volts might get a couple extra mhz on a good asic while staying within the power profile... or just crash. Worth it to test though - just to see if possible. Someone will still have to make a bios or Bios editor
post #515 of 7589
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Originally Posted by EniGma1987 View Post

Only Afterburner works right now.





I thought I was PT limited in my overclock before since benchmarks only reach 75 degrees, but in games I am hitting 89-90c so it is definitely temperature limited and throttling cause of that. It is possible I am htting both temp and PT limits, but I can clearly see I am temp limited in all games I have tried so far. Good thing I have a waterblock coming, it will actually provide real benefit. Didnt have any new resistors on hand for the PT limit mod, have to order some so that will be a week or two as well. Probably just do it at the same time as waterblcok install since the stock cooler has to come off for both projects.

Nvinspector works great.
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Lies, Murlocke. Didn't you see mine?

I'm still waiting for someone like CallsignVega to show up with an 11k or 12k score. tongue.gif


How? I get ~8900 consistently on TimeSpy with +200 core. Is that the difference in that demo between 4 and 6 cores?
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The 3440x1440p screen you had, was it G-Sync? (i.e. was it the Acer X34 or ASUS PG348Q? SInce those are the ONLY two 3440x1440 G-Sync's out currently...although i suppose it could've been freesync?) And was the 4K monitor you tried G-Sync?

No it was the first 3440x1440 monitor and 60hz, LG 34UM95. My 4K monitor is an OLED TV, no GSYNC on these.

I honestly won't consider a non-OLED at this point because it's too big of a difference, so I am probably not the right person to help you decide which to get. I've always felt 60hz is plenty, so I prefer 4K, but I do not play FPS. 144hz/GSYNC is nice but I can't swallow the picture quality of LCD displays anymore.
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How? I get ~8900 consistently on TimeSpy with +200 core. Is that the difference in that demo between 4 and 6 cores?

8 core. And I'd assume so, especially since DX12 is supposed to do a better job of spreading work between cores. Also, I ran mine at +175 / +700
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Fast Sync is amazing. I tried it in Witcher 3, GTA, etc. It's infinitely better than VSYNC as long as your FPS stays above 50-55 or so. If it drops below that, you start to get some blurry motion and it starts to feel weird, but nothing unplayable if it's just a quick dip. Being able to play with no tearing, and no input lag, as long as you maintain a decent FPS is extremely nice. It's a great alternative to GSYNC for OLED TV owners.

It makes a huuuge difference in Witcher 3. I always sucked at the combat in that game, and I found out it was due to VSYNC input lag. With fast sync, my rolls are much more precise.

I really want to replay GTA V and Witcher 3 now.....

It's a damn shame FastSync only works single gpu. mad.gif

As for OLED, all I would have to do is load up the new DOOM on my 4K OLED and it would be impossible not to convert someone to it's epic-ness. My X34 looks like a kids piece of junk next to it.

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I don't know about maxed out. I tried Crysis 3 and some settings can bring it to its knees. For example 4K plus even medium TXAA will drop it below 60fps.

Also the game looks dated finally. And one more thing. Nothing on earth gets rid of the horrendous aliasing on every stair in that game. Not 4K + high TXAA. Nothing. Those stairs will be aliased forever it seems.

When I say maxed out, I mean every setting is at it's highest besides AA. AA is very subjective, and you can toss huge amounts of performance out the window with AA. With 4K, FXAA looks pretty good to me. Once you start talking maxed out with crazy amounts of AA, DSR etc, that's a huge rabbit hole.
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Hmm....yeah i was thinking that perhaps i'd be better off with the X34 due to demanding games. Like i thought to myself "yes it is GENERALLY overkill, but on like The Witcher 3 at Max settings with Hairworks, or 4K Fallout 4 with max Godrays and 100+ mods etc.. i would probably end up at ~80-85fps or something, so perhaps it'd be worth it to get the X34 anyway"

But then there's the X34P coming out SOMETIME this year (i hate Acer's ambiguous vague estimates...."we think it might possibly sort of be kinda ready around Q4 of next year....i guess?" lmao. The X34P tempts me to not get a monitor yet, as it will have 100hz out of box with overclocking still enabled, an Acer rep said minimum 120hz would be possible, and since it uses Displayport 1.4, assuming the limiation is bandwidth and not the panel, i'm betting that ~130-140hz is more likely. Plus it has the joystick controls like the ASUS ROG monitors, and has a matte back finish, and also has the swivel etc.. stand; and it uses one of the higher quality LG "S-IPS" panels instead of the "AH-IPS" panels that have all the backlight bleed issues.

On a side note....is ESO REALLY that demanding? I mean yeah it's online so there's latency and CPU issues etc.. that effect ALL online games; but i didn't think the graphics and whatnot of ESO put it at the level that you would dip to 25fps! And yeah BF1 is one of the main things making me want to try the X34. I'm never a big FPS player, i enjoy the occasional playthrough of Metro 2033/LL, Far Cry 3/4, Fallout games etc.. but i'm never a competitive CoD, BF, etc.. type player. This is why i thought i might be able to get away with 60hz especially when it's in exchange for 4K, since i mostly play RPG, RTS, etc.. type games like Dark Souls, Dragon Age, Skyrim, The Witcher, Total War etc..etc.. but idk...
Yeah even in The Witcher 3 i was getting 89C after only 2-3 minutes even with 80% fan speed; have to crank to 90% or higher to keep it at 86C. I'm guessing this is because Witcher 3 with Ultra settings + Hairworks etc.. was using 85-99% usage. I have NO idea how people like JayztwoCents are running at 83-84C max, unless it really IS just a bad factory TIM application on certain cards.

I have all my settings maxed out on ESO. Maybe there's latency issues but I've seen frame rates dip to 35fps on dual 1080 GTXs native . Need my cards to do testing! But ESO at 100fps with no dips at max is a sight to behold.
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8 core. And I'd assume so, especially since DX12 is supposed to do a better job of spreading work between cores. Also, I ran mine at +175 / +700

Ah, yes that explains it. That's the only "gaming" benchmark I know of that has a huge difference between 4 and 8 cores. DX12 will likely make me regret getting a 6700k.
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