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I decided to go with 2 1080s, which is still cheaper than importing 1 Titan X rolleyes.gif
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I thought the same until I saw 4K OLED. I immediately stopped caring about 21:9, and didn't miss the increased FOV at all.

Now if it wasn't for OLED, 3440x1440 vs 4K would be a pretty hard choice. I think it would depend on the game which I prefer. Overall, I'd say I prefer 4K simply because too many titles don't have proper AA support and 3440x1440 still needs a good chunk of AA.
I just played Witcher for a couple hours with maxed out settings, my GPU stuck around 79C with fan at 100%. I think you need to reapply the TIM and/or possibly improve case airflow?
I'm sure they will add DX12 at some point. much like they did with DX11.

Ahhhh...i forgot you had an OLED. So the 4K monitor you have is that $5,000 Dell OLED then? Or is it one of the LG OLED TV's? Either way it makes sense i suppose, that you would prefer a 4K OLED over high refresh 1440p (even ultra-wide 21:9 1440p) because OLED has an INSANE response time of only 0.1ms!!! That crazy quick response time means that even with the input lag of an HDTV (which is higher than most monitors typically) your overall "lag" that places like TFT central define by adding true response time to input lag for a general "responsiveness" number; would be easily around as fast as a ~4-5ms IPS 144hz monitor if not faster.

Like for example if your OLED is a TV with an average G2G type response time of ~12ms then you're total lag would only be 12.1ms, compared to like the X34 which even at 100hz iirc, has a response time of like ~7ms and an input lag of ~4.5-5ms, totalling ~11.5 - 12ms; meaning your 4K OLED would be basically identical in overall lag, but would have the huge advantage of the crispness of 4K and the beautiful colors of OLED likely making it superior.

Unfortunately the only 4K OLED monitor is $5,000 and even i can't afford that, especially after spending money on buying all kinds of new stuff (Rampage V Edition 10, i7 6800K, two of these TITAN's etc.. i barely have enough to get the X34 monitor and MAYBE two waterblocks for the cards, might have to do with just one waterblock for now till i get more $$$)

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Might be ambient temperatures being different? Try putting the AC to full blast if you have one. biggrin.gif

I am doing just that since ~30 minutes ago; it was fairly hot today even in michigan (~84 degrees fahrenheit even at 11:30pm) I'll see if it makes any difference

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How? I get ~8900 consistently on TimeSpy with +200 core. Is that the difference in that demo between 4 and 6 cores?

Timespy LOVES extra threads, moving from my 8 core i7 5960X @ 4.5ghz to a 6 core i7 6800K @ 4.5ghz made my 6800K + GTX 1080 score fall almost as low as my 5960X + Maxwell TITAN X score was before i sold it to buy the 1080.
 
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It's a damn shame FastSync only works single gpu. mad.gif

As for OLED, all I would have to do is load up the new DOOM on my 4K OLED and it would be impossible not to convert someone to it's epic-ness. My X34 looks like a kids piece of junk next to it.
When I say maxed out, I mean every setting is at it's highest besides AA. AA is very subjective, and you can toss huge amounts of performance out the window with AA. With 4K, FXAA looks pretty good to me. Once you start talking maxed out with crazy amounts of AA, DSR etc, that's a huge rabbit hole.

REALLY?! That sucks, SLI would be incredible for fast sync + OLED 60hz.

I just played a bunch of Metro Last Night and Doom on my OLED today. If someone has never seen one, It'd only take them about 1 second to lose all faith in LCD displays in those dark games. The PQ of mine still impresses me every day and I've been using 4K OLED since the EG9600 (about a year now?). We actually talked in the AVS EG9600 thread a bunch when you first bought yours, but I ended up returning it and getting the E6 for reduced input lag.
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Ahhhh...i forgot you had an OLED. So the 4K monitor you have is that $5,000 Dell OLED then? Or is it one of the LG OLED TV's? Either way it makes sense i suppose, that you would prefer a 4K OLED over high refresh 1440p (even ultra-wide 21:9 1440p) because OLED has an INSANE response time of only 0.1ms!!! That crazy quick response time means that even with the input lag of an HDTV (which is higher than most monitors typically) your overall "lag" that places like TFT central define by adding true response time to input lag for a general "responsiveness" number; would be easily around as fast as a ~4-5ms IPS 144hz monitor if not faster.

It's the $6000 LG E6. I think it dropped to $5000 very recently. The 55" is much cheaper than that, and there are cheaper models now like the B6 and C6.

It's not as good as you make it sound though, the E6 has ~32ms input lag in PC mode which is about the same as a high quality non-gaming 60hz IPS LCD. It's pixels refresh at 0.1ms which makes 60hz motion a bit better than a typical 60hz LCD, but input lag is much higher than a 144hz LCD. I don't play FPS games usually, and even when I do 32ms input lag doesn't bother me. I've been gaming on ~30ms input lag my entire life because I always choose image quality over speed.

I am also turning 30 next month, and my reaction times aren't what they use to be. I have a hard time telling the difference between 1ms input lag and 30ms input lag anymore. Much above 30 though, I start to get annoyed. tongue.gif
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REALLY?! That sucks, SLI would be incredible for fast sync + OLED 60hz.

I just played a bunch of Metro Last Night and Doom on my OLED today. If someone has never seen one, It'd only take them about 1 second to lose all faith in LCD displays in those dark games. The PQ of mine still impresses me every day and I've been using 4K OLED since the EG9600. We actually talked in the AVS EG9600 thread a bunch, but I ended up returning and getting the E6 for reduced input lag.

Honestly OLED 55inch isnt that bad in terms of price. I wish I had seen it before and I would have resetup my entire PC table but I am up for testing new tech.

As for your 6700k, I think its completely fine for gaming for now. Worst case, go jump on SK-E and get 3d xpoint at the same time.
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Honestly OLED 55inch isnt that bad in terms of price. I wish I had seen it before and I would have resetup my entire PC table but I am up for testing new tech.

As for your 6700k, I think its completely fine for gaming for now. Worst case, go jump on SK-E and get 3d xpoint at the same time.

I have seen both the 55" E6 and 65" E6 being used a monitor, as my friend has the 55" version. He bought it after seeing my 65". rolleyes.gif

For PC use, the 55" is superior to a 65" due to increased PPI and the fact you can sit closer. The 55" models also seem to have a bit better uniformity because it's pretty hard to get perfect uniformity across 65".

I went with the 65" because I use the same display for movies, where I sit quite a bit further back than I do when I am on the PC.
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How? I get ~8900 consistently on TimeSpy with +200 core. Is that the difference in that demo between 4 and 6 cores?
No it was the first 3440x1440 monitor and 60hz, LG 34UM95. My 4K monitor is an OLED TV, no GSYNC on these.

I honestly won't consider a non-OLED at this point because it's too big of a difference, so I am probably not the right person to help you decide which to get. I've always felt 60hz is plenty, so I prefer 4K, but I do not play FPS. 144hz/GSYNC is nice but I can't swallow the picture quality of LCD displays anymore.

I could never. Went from plasma to OLED. Can't stand LCD.
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I got more score and fps with +750 mem than +600. +215 core +705 stable in uniengine heaven. I will try firestrike now.

I made some error, stock fan = 80-83c with +215 and +750

100% fan = 62-68C overclocked same setting
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I passed correctly fire strike ultra with core +215, +750 mem and i got a score of 6945
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Ah, yes that explains it. That's the only "gaming" benchmark I know of that has a huge difference between 4 and 8 cores. DX12 will likely make me regret getting a 6700k.

I don't regret trading in my 4.6GHz 5960X for a 4.8GHz 6700K. The latter will be faster in 98% of games. The Time Spy benchmark is silly, no game even comes close to needing that much CPU processing of 8-10 cores. Games just don't have that much parallelism. It's pretty pointless running that benchmark on less than a 8-10 core CPU. Games are heading that direction, but nowhere near as much as that benchmark would imply.
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REALLY?! That sucks, SLI would be incredible for fast sync + OLED 60hz.

I just played a bunch of Metro Last Night and Doom on my OLED today. If someone has never seen one, It'd only take them about 1 second to lose all faith in LCD displays in those dark games. The PQ of mine still impresses me every day and I've been using 4K OLED since the EG9600 (about a year now?). We actually talked in the AVS EG9600 thread a bunch when you first bought yours, but I ended up returning it and getting the E6 for reduced input lag.

I also returned my 9600 due to the vignette issue. The 55OLED6CP I have now is way better.
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I don't regret trading in my 4.6GHz 5960X for a 4.8GHz 6700K.

I got the 6700k thinkng 4.7GHz would be a sure thing, 4.8GHz if I get a good chip.

I got 4.6GHz and that needs 1.37v to be stable. rolleyes.gif
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I also returned my 9600 due to the vignette issue.

Yeah that TV was a flop in my opinion, most people got free upgrades and/or refunded by LG. Mine had 12" black bars on both side at anything below 10% gray. How something like that got past quality control is very crazy.
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