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Originally Posted by PowerK View Post

Sure. Let me put it this way then.
8pin = 150W
6pin = 75W
PCI-E = 75W
Total = 300W

Ummm no. If i had a nickel for everytime i saw some post something similar. - http://forum.kingpincooling.com/showthread.php?t=3961

"Often gamers and users are mistakenly referring to 6-pin or 8-pin MiniFit.JR connectors as 75W or 150W capable inputs. Nothing can be further from truth. These power levels are nothing but just way for NV determine how capable is used board hardware in terms of power delivery system. It's imaginary target number and have nothing to do with actual power taken from connector nor power input capability. Software and NV BIOS will handle GPU clocks and reduce voltages if measured power hitting programmed BIOS limit (which can and usuall is different value than 75/150W per connector!).

If you intend to do serious overclocking and benchmarking, it may be required to trick power monitoring circuitry to report lower power reading, so you not run into power throttle. Also to make sure we are not at any physical limit of power connector itself, check Molex 26-01-3116 specifications, which have specifications both 13A *per contact* (16AWG wire in small connector) to 8.5A/contact (18AWG wire).

This means that using common 18AWG cable, 6-pin connector specified for 17A of current (3 contacts for +12V power, 2 contacts for GND return, one contact for detect). 8-pin have 25.5A current specification (3 contacts for +12V power, 3 contacts for GND return and 2 contacts for detection). This is 204W at +12.0V level or 306W for 8-pin accordingly.

Now if somebody tells you that 6-pin can't provide more than 75W, you know they don't understand the topic very well. It's not the connector itself or cable limit the power, but active regulation of GPU/BIOS/Driver according to detection of used cables and preprogrammed limits. So now we getting to know how actual power measured?"
    
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Ummm no. If i had a nickel for everytime i saw some post something similar. - http://forum.kingpincooling.com/showthread.php?t=3961

"Often gamers and users are mistakenly referring to 6-pin or 8-pin MiniFit.JR connectors as 75W or 150W capable inputs. Nothing can be further from truth. These power levels are nothing but just way for NV determine how capable is used board hardware in terms of power delivery system. It's imaginary target number and have nothing to do with actual power taken from connector nor power input capability. Software and NV BIOS will handle GPU clocks and reduce voltages if measured power hitting programmed BIOS limit (which can and usuall is different value than 75/150W per connector!).

If you intend to do serious overclocking and benchmarking, it may be required to trick power monitoring circuitry to report lower power reading, so you not run into power throttle. Also to make sure we are not at any physical limit of power connector itself, check Molex 26-01-3116 specifications, which have specifications both 13A *per contact* (16AWG wire in small connector) to 8.5A/contact (18AWG wire).

This means that using common 18AWG cable, 6-pin connector specified for 17A of current (3 contacts for +12V power, 2 contacts for GND return, one contact for detect). 8-pin have 25.5A current specification (3 contacts for +12V power, 3 contacts for GND return and 2 contacts for detection). This is 204W at +12.0V level or 306W for 8-pin accordingly.

Now if somebody tells you that 6-pin can't provide more than 75W, you know they don't understand the topic very well. It's not the connector itself or cable limit the power, but active regulation of GPU/BIOS/Driver according to detection of used cables and preprogrammed limits. So now we getting to know how actual power measured?"
You should check ATX spec. Those are the limits.
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That is the spec, not the limits. You can push more power through all of those connections, they'd just be out of spec at that point.
 
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That is the spec, not the limits. You can push more power through all of those connections, they'd just be out of spec at that point.

That is correct indeed smile.gif
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That is the spec, not the limits. You can push more power through all of those connections, they'd just be out of spec at that point.
LOL. Overclocking. thumb.gif
    
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Had the shunt mod on for a few days. Used CLU, but after some researching, it doesn't look like it's a good idea as people have said it eats solder. So I cleaned it off. Now back to the throttling for now at least.mad.gif

Might try the shunt mod again with conductonaut, might not as the cold season is over weather wise.
not sure conductonaut is materially different regarding gallium content (which really is the key component of all these liquid metal mixtures).
IDK - I can;t get CLU or CLP to do anything on my TXp... got the PCIE ribbon today so I can lay the card on the MB, but I won't be able to play with it until Mon Tues (I hope). redface.gif
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You should check ATX spec. Those are the limits.
they are the min spec for those rails and terminals. each is capable of delivering a lot more that the min spec. It's mainly an issue for the connectors assuming the cables are sufficient gauge. I mean, using an EVBOT on 780Ti Kingpins, the PCIE combined had to deliver nearly 2x this spec - and they did without even getting warm by IR thermo. smile.gif
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Off topic question here. I'm looking for the follow specs for titan x (pascal 2016)

1. Thermal pad sizes for stock cooler / backplate
2. Backplate screw size (the tiny little ones that hold the backplate)
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Off topic question here. I'm looking for the follow specs for titan x (pascal 2016)

1. Thermal pad sizes for stock cooler / backplate
2. Backplate screw size (the tiny little ones that hold the backplate)
Not really off topic. .5mm for mem and vrm 16mm wide by 120mm strips. for the mosfet it's 1mm thick by 24mm wide in 120mm strip. Same at TXp 2017. Backplate is .5mm IIRC. All I can say about the screws is REALY small that screws on another bigger screws with a hex head on top that's the same size thread as a standard TXP ekwb screws, don't have measurements for that sorry.
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Waiting on the block to arrive.... ahhh, can't wait to install this thing, haha.

Yeah!

That's going to look great in TUCM!
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Yeah!

That's going to look great in TUCM!
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Which block did you order?

EK Copper/Acetal My go to combo smile.gif
 
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