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post #1 of 11
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Hi,

I might have overlooked some options and come here as this is the place to be for everything mice related.

I've been looking for a replacement for a long time for my MX518 but cannot find anything that feels as good in my hand. I'm a fingertip user and I could play like 12 hrs straight it feels like and when I lifted the hand it would still feel as if I hadn't done anything.

My preference in size & weight is roughly mid-size'ish and 90 ~ 105 g

Here's a couple of mice I've tested and what I thought about them:

Mionix Castor

This is the closest replacement I've found so far, the top and the right side is quite perfect, the weight & size is quite suitable BUT the left-side with thumb rest just doesn't feel comfortable at all with its \_ -angle. For me after some use the uncomfort is felt in the thumb meanwhile if using MX518, nothing in my hand is feeling any oddities. That side should have been straighter 90 degree or even slightly bit /_ angle but with a carved out space for the thumb in order to increase the grip. The thumb buttons aren't as good as on the MX518 either but reasonably close. The scroll noise when scrolling DOWN was also somewhat disturbing (silent when it goes up though which adds to the disturbance (inconsistent).

The original DeathAdder

Slightly too big overall size wise, quite good shape otherwise and accidentally pressed sidebuttons back then. Felt a bit "clumsy" to move, especially for Unreal Tournament kinda games.

Zowie FK

A bit too shallow, making my hand touch too much the mousepad

Zowie EC2-A

Feels slightly too "slippery" (hate the finish on it) with bad grip & feel of stability in the hand due to the rather "sleek"/straight angles everywhere without any aid for the fingers to better be able to lift the mouse. It's a weird thing, it was quite good shape wise but there was still something which didn't quite work for me about it, it just felt slightly unsatisfying somehow. Also the sidebuttons were a letdown.

Corsair M65

Tried it in a shop only but I seem to prefer a more rounded shape, this was a bit too edgy. Also it felt slightly too heavy (even without weights)

Roccat Savu

Suitable size but the shape didn't do it for me, too rectangular especially at the back-right side of the mouse made my wrist hurt after a little use. The peak height of the mouse positioned a bit too far back for my taste.

Intellimouse Explorer 3.0

A bit too long and shallow form factor with horrible sidebuttons and also poor mouse feet glide on cloth pads (it's like suction cups almost, brrrrr).

Intellimouse Explorer 1.1

Feels good in my hand suprisingly despite its small size, must be the somewhat tallish and unround top-side making it feel/seem/appear bigger than what you'd think. Not available anymore and would prefer 2 thumb buttons and spaced a bit higher up, out of the way for the thumb (I've got pretty big thumbs)

Steelseries Kana V2

The shape of Steelseries mouse doesn't seem to fit me, the top is too narrow and rounded making them feel small and this makes it uncomfortable to grip, not to mention the sidebuttons I'd accidentally press.

Steelseries Kinzu V2

Too small obviously, making my hand touch the mousepad too much. Got this one for free though.
post #2 of 11
Closest you can find I believe is the Logitech G500s- you can buy some on ebay.
post #3 of 11
I would look at these:

Zowie ZA11/12 depending on hand size
Roccat XTD optical
Rival 300
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No no no. Not G500S. Bad.

If you're in US, you can get a new G400S on newegg.
Edited by Melan - 7/22/16 at 12:09pm
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post #5 of 11
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No no no. Not G500S. Bad.

If you're in US, you can get a new G400S on newegg.

I forgot to write I do have a G400s I bought 2nd hand, although I actually prefer MX518 over the G400s for two reasons, the MX518 (first generation with smaller plastic feet) feels about 1-2 or whatever grams lighter than it and MX518 is already in the "upper-end" what weight I prefer using so then even if the difference is minimal it becomes a noticeable factor for me. Also the plastic smaller feet have a slightly better glide on my cloth pads but I'd likely use this one if my MX518 died though.
post #6 of 11
Well, here's the fun part. You can put G400S innards into MX518 body. Pretty much all models with this shape (MX500, MX518, G400, G400S) use identical PCBs. Make sure you switch the lens as well.
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post #7 of 11
wizard^
If you wanted you could just swap the guts of the g400s and put it into the mx518 shell. The good thing about the original mx518 was that you didnt have to take off the feet to open it up. I did this for my g400
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Well, here's the fun part. You can put G400S innards into MX518 body. Pretty much all models with this shape (MX500, MX518, G400, G400S) use identical PCBs. Make sure you switch the lens as well.
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wizard^
If you wanted you could just swap the guts of the g400s and put it into the mx518 shell. The good thing about the original mx518 was that you didnt have to take off the feet to open it up. I did this for my g400

That's a good tip haha, why didn't I think of that!? I will probably do this when my MX518 switches dies or the cable connection becomes so bad it just keeps disconnecting all the time (despite I've opened it up 3 times now to reroute the cable a bit in order to relieve the stress on the cable connecting point to the PCB). Well it did have a better sensor too due lack of acceleration on G400s but I've become acoustomed to the slight bit of acceleration that it doesn't drastically affect my gaming that much, my muscle memory is quite built-in by now.
Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 7/22/16 at 12:24pm
post #9 of 11
You can get a cable on ebay for 3-5$ on ebay too. Switches can be replaced if you're handy with soldering iron. G400S shells are also around 10$ on ebay. Your MX518 will not die.
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post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Melan View Post

Well, here's the fun part. You can put G400S innards into MX518 body. Pretty much all models with this shape (MX500, MX518, G400, G400S) use identical PCBs. Make sure you switch the lens as well.

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Originally Posted by Melan View Post

You can get a cable on ebay for 3-5$ on ebay too. Switches can be replaced if you're handy with soldering iron. G400S shells are also around 10$ on ebay. Your MX518 will not die.

Yea they seem to have everything there, I even found a 25 pcs of MX518 v1 PTFE Teflon tape mouse feet for $8 something, might need to grab that and a replacement cable or two when you can still find them easily. smile.gif
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