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Hmm, so Nvidia's website says AMD's default image quality is worse. Interesting. BTW why all their sources are in German?

Here is the only one with actual screenshots:
https://www.computerbase.de/2010-10/bericht-radeon-hd-6800/5/#abschnitt_anisotrope_filterung_auf_hd_6800

Source engine was always kinda unbalanced in favour of AMD/ATi
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That would be per favore!!!
the camera argument isn't invalid, actually it's more valid than everything you said. The videos are both compressed, and a screenshot wouldn't make it very clear, there are differences from the pics you show, but i'm pretty sure that if you made the same experiment (maybe more accurate than that) you would notice no difference at all, besides maybe that paper sheet (i feel ridiculous talking about that honestly) and again this said, if your bionic eye can see better than us, you should be able to notice the forced setting side is smoother in several occasions (despite the lower framerate)

Rome is beautiful but Napoli's got better Pizza. Kinda like, NVidia is super but AMD's got better IQ. lol

Hope this thread don't make you conscious about the IQ each time you use your PC.
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Source engine was always kinda unbalanced in favour of AMD/ATi

But according to the Nvidia blog post, this article says that it looks better on Nvidia! I don't speak German, if someone does, please clarify.
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AMD can't compete, so AMD fanboys bring stuff like this up. Using screenshots and videos with messed up settings as "proof".

Anyone with experience with both brands knows this is not an issue. Only if you play around in the control panels, you can make one brand's IQ look much better than the other, takes a few seconds to force low IQ regardless of in-game settings.

Nothing to see here. Move along.
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AMD can't compete, so AMD fanboys bring stuff like this up. Using screenshots and videos with messed up settings as "proof".

Anyone with experience with both brands knows this is not an issue. Only if you play around in the control panels, you can make one brand's IQ look much better than the other, takes a few seconds to force low IQ regardless of in-game settings.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

AMD has higher IQ and lower DPC Latency but it's marketing SUCKS!
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I don't know. I believe Gregster stated he forgot to change the title when he recorded it.

But he presented two videos in that thread. This would be the one you are looking for as it's default quality for both sides.
Ok. Thanks for the reference to the vid.

Default quality both sides... The Fury X has a more aggressive motion blur to it, which makes the comparison a bit more complicated based on a video rather than screenshots. But still, I was able to find out some things...

Seems to be that textures are the same. Up close textures, I see no difference between them. However, AMD's AF seems to be superior to nVidia's, because from a distance you'll see that the AMD side looks sharper (see shots below). Aside from this, there's a slight difference in their colors. Hard to notice, but it's there... Let's look at the screenshots.

Look at this picture... The car is 'whiter' on the AMD card, but the difference is so small that most people won't notice. The reflection of the building is also 'more blue' on the AMD card. Also notice the shadow. AMD's shadows seem to be superior here...


Here you can also see a clear difference in color, but this is not really a color difference. You'll see in the next image that it's practically the same. But nVidia's inferior AF implementation makes it appear blurry, washing out the blues and the whites with each other. It could be argued that it's a difference in lighting, although from the video it does not appear to be the case. The board really is blurrier on nVidia.


As you can see, when closer, the boards look almost the same, (the AMD one is a longer distance away).


And lastly, here the player was standing still. The difference in AF is clearly visible here... Also notice that he's closer to that spot that I marked on the ground on the nVidia card and yet it looks blurrier on it.


So... More aggressive blur + better AF + sharper shadow edges would net some performance loss on the AMD card compared to nVidia. The colors... Too complicated to delve into them based on video screenshots only.
Edited by NightAntilli - 7/27/16 at 7:05am
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Ok. Thanks for the reference to the vid.

Default quality both sides... The Fury X has a more aggressive motion blur to it, which makes the comparison a bit more complicated based on a video rather than screenshots. But still, I was able to find out some things...

Seems to be that textures are the same. Up close textures, I see no difference between them. However, AMD's AF seems to be superior to nVidia's, because from a distance you'll see that the AMD side looks sharper (see shots below). Aside from this, there's a slight difference in their colors. Hard to notice, but it's there... Let's look at the screenshots.

Look at this picture... The car is 'whiter' on the AMD card, but the difference is so small that most people won't notice. The reflection of the building is also 'more blue' on the AMD card. Also notice the shadow. AMD's shadows seem to be superior here...


Here you can also see a clear difference in color, but this is not really a color difference. You'll see in the next image that it's practically the same. But nVidia's inferior AF implementation makes it appear blurry, washing out the blues and the whites with each other. It could be argued that it's a difference in lighting, although from the video it does not appear to be the case. The board really is blurrier on nVidia.


As you can see, when closer, the boards look almost the same, (the AMD one is a longer distance away).


And lastly, here the player was standing still. The difference in AF is clearly visible here... Also notice that he's closer to that spot that I marked on the ground on the nVidia card and yet it looks blurrier on it.


So... More aggressive blur + better AF + sharper shadow edges would net some performance loss on the AMD card compared to nVidia. The colors... Too complicated to delve into them based on video screenshots only.


on my monitor, the titan-x looks better, I have 20-20 vision without glasses.. anyone compared the new pascals.. I owned a fury prior to replacing it with a zotac 1070, and I think the 1070 looks better. Smoke looks awful on the amd card.
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AMD can't compete, so AMD fanboys bring stuff like this up. Using screenshots and videos with messed up settings as "proof".

Anyone with experience with both brands knows this is not an issue. Only if you play around in the control panels, you can make one brand's IQ look much better than the other, takes a few seconds to force low IQ regardless of in-game settings.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

AMD is targeting a specific market and in that market, yes Nvidia has a more powerful GPU but its ≤ 10% that AMDs offering, hows that not competing?

And on your second line... Not everyone has experience and out of the box AMD has better colors (I say that but I could replicate the color vibrancy of AMD GPUs when I had my Nvidia GPU and believe me it wasn't for a lack of trying).
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Ok. Thanks for the reference to the vid.

Default quality both sides... The Fury X has a more aggressive motion blur to it, which makes the comparison a bit more complicated based on a video rather than screenshots. But still, I was able to find out some things...

Seems to be that textures are the same. Up close textures, I see no difference between them. However, AMD's AF seems to be superior to nVidia's, because from a distance you'll see that the AMD side looks sharper (see shots below). Aside from this, there's a slight difference in their colors. Hard to notice, but it's there... Let's look at the screenshots. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Look at this picture... The car is 'whiter' on the AMD card, but the difference is so small that most people won't notice. The reflection of the building is also 'more blue' on the AMD card. Also notice the shadow. AMD's shadows seem to be superior here...


Here you can also see a clear difference in color, but this is not really a color difference. You'll see in the next image that it's practically the same. But nVidia's inferior AF implementation makes it appear blurry, washing out the blues and the whites with each other. It could be argued that it's a difference in lighting, although from the video it does not appear to be the case. The board really is blurrier on nVidia.


As you can see, when closer, the boards look almost the same, (the AMD one is a longer distance away).


And lastly, here the player was standing still. The difference in AF is clearly visible here... Also notice that he's closer to that spot that I marked on the ground on the nVidia card and yet it looks blurrier on it.


So... More aggressive blur + better AF + sharper shadow edges would net some performance loss on the AMD card compared to nVidia. The colors... Too complicated to delve into them based on video screenshots only.[/spoilers]
I'm someone that can't see microstutter... but those color differences aren't minor to me... I've tried to replicate them for years on multiple Nvidia GPUs and that's what made me finally switch to AMD.

+rep
Edited by iTurn - 7/27/16 at 7:15am
 
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Rome is fking sht and Napoli is too, you have no idea...
Here the only thing that sucks is nvidia prices related to the performance they have compared to amd, +5/10% = +30/40% cost, now rx 480 vs 1060 isn't the case, cause prices are very close, 10/20 $/€ most of the times, but prices for 1070 and 1080 are so triggering, won't even talk about titan

I prolly been to more places in Italy than you.

Imagine you have this new shiny 1440 144 Hz monitor only to find out that you can't take full advantage of its potential. You got higher fps, though. For some, that's all that matters.biggrin.gif
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on my monitor, the titan-x looks better, I have 20-20 vision without glasses.. anyone compared the new pascals.. I owned a fury prior to replacing it with a zotac 1070, and I think the 1070 looks better. Smoke looks awful on the amd card.
If you're willing to make a video and/or take screenshots, preferably imitating the ones used on the prior page (as in, same game, same level same walk, same settings), we could make a comparison.

The more data the better.
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