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Did I say something wrong?
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OP, 200$ vs 300$, equal performance, 480 IS smoking it smile.gif
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I reply to this:
saying that 480 is a card of a lower price bracket, therefore being neck to neck can be considered "smoking it".

you said 480 is 200$ and 1060 is 300$ which is total bs, msrp are much much closer, 239 vs 249, and custom cards price is close too, i could find few aib 1060 for less than 280€ here, and the lowest rx 480 i can find is above 260€ and not even aib just rebranded sapphire with stock cooler, so the price tier is the same 10/20 $€ more or less, and the 1060 is a hair faster
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480/1060 has the same performance delta.
480 will outlast the 1060 the AMD card is the better buy.
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you said 480 is 200$ and 1060 is 300$ which is total bs, msrp are much much closer, 239 vs 249, and custom cards price is close too, i could find few aib 1060 for less than 280€ here, and the lowest rx 480 i can find is above 260€ and not even aib just rebranded sapphire with stock cooler, so the price tier is the same 10/20 $€ more or less, and the 1060 is a hair faster

Hmm, yes, you are right, somewhat. Cheapest 1060 really is 250$. That is still 50$ above the cheapest 480, not 20$ as you claim.

Since 1080's MSRP was 599$ and the card retails for 650$,
and the 1070's MSRP was 379$ and the card retails for 440$,
I thought the same would hold for the 1060, but it seems Nvidia only like to rob their high class customers smile.gif

Also, no need to use the 8Gb 480 for example here, 4Gb has exactly the same performance in this case. So 199$ vs 249$, not 239$ vs 249$. But I admit, it's 100$ as I expected.
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Why continuously bring out the 4GB model and its purely theoretical 199$ tax-free price, and availability, in most of the world? Shouldn't we care about reality?
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Hmm, yes, you are right, somewhat. Cheapest 1060 really is 250$. That is still 50$ above the cheapest 480, not 20$ as you claim.

Since 1080's MSRP was 599$ and the card retails for 650$,
and the 1070's MSRP was 379$ and the card retails for 440$,
I thought the same would hold for the 1060, but it seems Nvidia only like to rob their high class customers smile.gif

Also, no need to use the 8Gb 480 for example here, 4Gb has exactly the same performance in this case. So 199$ vs 249$, not 239$ vs 249$. But I admit, it's 100$ as I expected.

so for that there might be a 3GB version of 1060, which would cost probably slightly more than 200$, 220 maybe? And i wouldn't say 4GB has the same performace of 8GB overall, so i guess in that case (4GB 480 vs 6GB 1060) the 50$ more would be pretty much justified...
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Why continuously bring out the 4GB model and its purely theoretical 199$ tax-free price, and availability, in most of the world? Shouldn't we care about reality?

also this
Edited by oxidized - 7/24/16 at 3:38am
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The reason is that AMD's async performance was hyped to the moon by it's fans. Reality rarely matches fan expectations and Nvidia has consistently had better hardware and software since basically the 9700 pro/Gefore FX era the last time AMD/TI was truly ahead.

No one in this forums wants to hear that but it's not really an opinion. AMD is still your value choice and if you are cash limited in your GPU purchase they are certainly still worth considering.
    
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Async compute is not magic. The gain is generally 5-10%, the performance boost in Doom was not because of async compute alone. AMD's OpenGL drivers are terrible. That's the reason for huge boost in Doom when using Vulkan, which is pretty much Mantle.
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The reason is that AMD's async performance was hyped to the moon by it's fans. Reality rarely matches fan expectations and Nvidia has consistently had better hardware and software since basically the 9700 pro/Gefore FX era the last time AMD/TI was truly ahead.

No one in this forums wants to hear that but it's not really an opinion. AMD is still your value choice and if you are cash limited in your GPU purchase they are certainly still worth considering.

It is like that, that's part of the reason why nvidia has 80% of market, i mean people are stupid but not that stupid, besides as i already said, nvidia should be doing much more than what they're doing, and i'm sure vega will be die a hard adversary
Edited by oxidized - 7/24/16 at 9:50am
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The reason is that AMD's async performance was hyped to the moon by it's fans. Reality rarely matches fan expectations and Nvidia has consistently had better hardware and software since basically the 9700 pro/Gefore FX era the last time AMD/TI was truly ahead.

No one in this forums wants to hear that but it's not really an opinion. AMD is still your value choice and if you are cash limited in your GPU purchase they are certainly still worth considering.

What I do not like read are lies. Better software? Better hardware? With the dpc latency issue present . . ., what's to be proud of? lol

BTW, tried 1070 SLI and they gave me a headache.
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The reason is that AMD's async performance was hyped to the moon by it's fans. Reality rarely matches fan expectations and Nvidia has consistently had better hardware and software since basically the 9700 pro/Gefore FX era the last time AMD/TI was truly ahead.

No one in this forums wants to hear that but it's not really an opinion. AMD is still your value choice and if you are cash limited in your GPU purchase they are certainly still worth considering.

*Looks at Kepler*

*Looks at GTX 760 PCs he built for his GF and brother*

*A tear drops down the cheek due to the death of the once great card*

Well... Nvidia is many things... but better hardware? Better engineering? Seems... like they are not.

I am sure this R9 390 will keep on chugging past the 970s and 980s in time. Like an AK-74 against 1st generation L85s smile.gif .
Edited by Charcharo - 7/24/16 at 9:58am
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