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*Looks at Kepler*
I am sure this R9 390 will keep on chugging past the 970s and 980s in time

for now they're still behind, will see...
post #52 of 230
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for now they're still behind, will see...

Depends on the title. Overall past the 970. The 980 is easy in DX12 and Vulkan, but in due time it too will simply... stop competing.
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Depends on the title. Overall past the 970. The 980 is easy in DX12 and Vulkan, but in due time it too will simply... stop competing.

Stop assuming things guys, cmon...
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Stop assuming things guys, cmon...

I do not want to sound toxic, but I am genuinely interested... what do you mean?

I am not assuming. Depending on the game, the R9 390 is faster. Sometimes slower. That is normal. Overall it seems to be a tad faster but at the cost of higher power consumption. Of course, in pretty much all DX12 and the one good Vulkan bench we have, it easily wins against its closest Maxwell competitors. It is built for longevity (what matters to me ... a lot).

I am not assuming.
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I do not want to sound toxic, but I am genuinely interested... what do you mean?

I am not assuming. Depending on the game, the R9 390 is faster. Sometimes slower. That is normal. Overall it seems to be a tad faster but at the cost of higher power consumption. Of course, in pretty much all DX12 and the one good Vulkan bench we have, it easily wins against its closest Maxwell competitors. It is built for longevity (what matters to me ... a lot).

I am not assuming.

The fact they'll get better on DX12 or vulkan is to assume something, you can't say for sure, not only because it happened it's gonna happen again, or will continue happening on cards that already show that, on the last benchmarks i saw, (1060 benchmarks) OC 970 was faster than 390 pretty much always and sometimes faster than the 390X, of course we're talking about dx11 mostly, but again, you can only assume AMD will or could exploit that advantage they seem to have on DX12 on few titles and nvidia won't, why nobody assumes nvidia will improve their DX12 or vulkan (they're already doing it with vulkan) and surpass AMD on that too?

Frankly man, i really hope AMD will get their sht together, cause i've had enough of nvidia prices and just a-hair better than AMD (and not even always). That will cause AMD to double their market share in a matter of few years and really compete with nvidia on every front again, that will also cause nvidia being more competitive price wise mostly, so we'd have lower prices, and more competition which is always good.
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The fact they'll get better on DX12 or vulkan is to assume something, you can't say for sure, not only because it happened it's gonna happen again, or will continue happening on cards that already show that, on the last benchmarks i saw, (1060 benchmarks) OC 970 was faster than 390 pretty much always and sometimes faster than the 390X, of course we're talking about dx11 mostly, but again, you can only assume AMD will or could exploit that advantage they seem to have on DX12 on few titles and nvidia won't, why nobody assumes nvidia will improve their DX12 or vulkan (they're already doing it with vulkan) and surpass AMD on that too?

Frankly man, i really hope AMD will get their sht together, cause i've had enough of nvidia prices and just a-hair better than AMD (and not even always). That will cause AMD to double their market share in a matter of few years and really compete with nvidia on every front again, that will also cause nvidia being more competitive price wise mostly, so we'd have lower prices, and more competition which is always good.

Yeah an OCed 970 will beat a stock R9 390. That is true. In DX11 at least.

Want to make a bet on future DX12 and Vulkan games? In general, those that arent simple wrappers. I am almost adamant how it will turn out though, and it is not in the 970 and 980s favour. Which technically saddens me. Will we see the 980 getting beaten easily a year from now? Probably.

I solved my issues. I dont buy Nvidia cards till they actually learn to support their cards and how to engineer things that arent obsolete. So their pricing does not affect me smile.gif
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Yeah an OCed 970 will beat a stock R9 390. That is true. In DX11 at least.

Want to make a bet on future DX12 and Vulkan games? In general, those that arent simple wrappers. I am almost adamant how it will turn out though, and it is not in the 970 and 980s favour. Which technically saddens me. Will we see the 980 getting beaten easily a year from now? Probably.

I solved my issues. I dont buy Nvidia cards till they actually learn to support their cards and how to engineer things that arent obsolete. So their pricing does not affect me smile.gif

Actually it's faster on tomb raider with DX12, but that doesn't matter
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Actually it's faster on tomb raider with DX12, but that doesn't matter

The answer to that is already contained in my previous reply. So no worries.
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Actually it's faster on tomb raider with DX12, but that doesn't matter

Tomb Raider is not a real Dx12 game, it is Dx11 encapsulated in Dx12 API, that doesn't help performance.
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Tomb Raider is not a real Dx12 game, it is Dx11 encapsulated in Dx12 API, that doesn't help performance.

Source and proof?
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