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Intel did not pay AMD. What happened was that when AMD spun off their fabs Intel said they'd broken their agreement and thus didn't need to pay the agreed sum.

STOP

The US settlement of $1.25bn has been confirmed received by AMD a long time ago. Now stop spreading this nonsense.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-intel-1.25-billion-settlement,9258.html
http://www.digital-digest.com/news-62210-Intel-Pays-AMD-125-Billion.html
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Originally Posted by maarten12100 View Post

Polaris is an architecture not a card while the GTX1070 is a card not an architecture.
I was quite disappointed with the efficiency of the RX 480 however I still bought one for a friend that wanted value. Going by OC UK mod post the RX 480 sells really well so I guess it is a financial success even though it is a efficiency failure.

Yes it sells well, it was a new product and it is a really great card. I also own it, and truly love the reference design. Problem is that GTX 1070 costs as much as Fury, and Pascal really is better, and more efficient. How they are going to increase market share with their strategy with RX 480?
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AMD has seen some huge improvements in their Q2 2016 financial results, returning to Non-GAAP profitability and increased revenue.
This quarter AMD has seen a 23% increase in revenue compared to Q1 2016 and a 9% increase when compared to this time last year. In terms of operating loss AMD has decreased their GAAP operating loss from 137 million in Q2 2015 to just 8 million in Q2 2016.
Source

This wasn't a huge improvement, look at what they actually reported, not just the press release. AMD has been consistently losing money for a long time now; this Q was more of the same. It only looks not as bad as other Qs because they had a one time sale of an asset for 350 million dollars. It really is that simple, honestly.

Looking at the numbers ('m going to round) we see they started the Q with about 700m in cash. They ended the Q with about 950m cash. 350m cash came in from the sale of assets, which leaves a loss of about 100m cash from operations. This is pretty much what they have been doing going on 5 years now, losing tons of cash. Imagine you own a store and you can't pay rent one Q so you have to sell the register, the computer, the fixtures, display cases, etc. Was that a good Q or a bad one? Thats fine if it is one Q but when it is going on 5 years, well, thats scraping the bottom of the barrel as the expression goes.

Looking a little closer at that 100m cash operating loss we see something even more troubling, current liabilities went up 250m or so driven largely by an almost 300m increase in accounts payable. In other words, they haven't paid their suppliers, they borrowed from them. That huge cash loss doesn't even take into account this cost yet.

None of this is good news if you're an owner of AMD, or an employee of AMD, they're losing cash hand over fist just like they have been for going on 5 years now. The only real good news is, if you happen to be an executive at AMD, congrats, your bonuses which had declined to only 34m last year are on schedule to go up this year.
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Which AMD fanboy hive did you pull that fantasy from?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2873
Oh, here's AMD adding 1.25 Billion in cash to their quarterly earnings report.
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1172826

Are you seriously going to argue that Intel didn't pay AMD?

What to do with Intel anti-trust fine, biggrin.gif or law and justice in Twilihgt Zone, excuse me I'm going to throw up. wink.gif

https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Intel-still-hasnt-paid-AMD-12-billion-USD-anti-trust-fine
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Intel did not pay AMD. What happened was that when AMD spun off their fabs Intel said they'd broken their agreement and thus didn't need to pay the agreed sum.

Which AMD fanboy hive did you pull that fantasy from?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2873
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With a major loss for Intel looming, the massive cost of many more years of litigation, and the monumental fine Intel would face if they lost a case in the United States (where damages are trebled), Intel and AMD sat down and began settlement talks in earnest in April, culminating in what has happened today. AMD and Intel have agreed to settle all of their outstanding litigation, Intel has agreed to adhere to certain business practices, Intel will be paying AMD, and the two companies have signed a new 5-year cross-licensing agreement for x86.

[...]

Out of this settlement come four major things for AMD:
 
  1. $1.25 billion in cold, hard cash.
  2. Intel will stop doing things that they and AMD agree they shouldn’t be doing.
  3. The right to not have to produce x86 CPUs in-house. AMD can go fabless.
  4. The right to have their x86 processors fabricated anywhere of AMD’s choosing.

Although AMD and Intel don’t attribute anything to the cash portion of the settlement beyond the fact that it’s a number the two could agree on, we believe that it is intended to cover the legal costs AMD has incurred over the years in fighting Intel. Remember why Intel settled in the first place: anti-trust suits are expensive. AMD will receive the $1.25 billion in cash within 30 days.

Oh, here's AMD adding 1.25 Billion in cash to their quarterly earnings report.
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1172826

Are you seriously going to argue that Intel didn't pay AMD?

Thanks for correcting me.

 

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Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

Intel did not pay AMD. What happened was that when AMD spun off their fabs Intel said they'd broken their agreement and thus didn't need to pay the agreed sum.

STOP

The US settlement of $1.25bn has been confirmed received by AMD a long time ago. Now stop spreading this nonsense.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-intel-1.25-billion-settlement,9258.html
http://www.digital-digest.com/news-62210-Intel-Pays-AMD-125-Billion.html

Thanks for the articles.

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Thanks for correcting me.

Thanks for the articles.

It is at least refreshing to see someone accept when they are wrong and learn something new.
     
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They haven't launch new cpu in ages and we have fanboy wars already on this single positive news. imagine what will happen on zen's launch.

lachen.gif

Ya...

When Zen launches the block list will grow even faster. Which is a sadder state of affairs than AMD's financials.
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STOP

The US settlement of $1.25bn has been confirmed received by AMD a long time ago. Now stop spreading this nonsense.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-intel-1.25-billion-settlement,9258.html
http://www.digital-digest.com/news-62210-Intel-Pays-AMD-125-Billion.html

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Yes Indeed. The ignorance in that particular thread was incredible. It made AMD fans look genuinely stupid. Literally facts were thrown in their face and somehow these facts were ignored, misunderstood and misconstrued to make it look like Intel didn't pay even those the facts stated the opposite.

For example, an article would state Intel agrees to pay antitrust lawsuit settlement and has appealed EU fine.

AMD fanboy interprets this as Intel has not paid antitrust lawsuit and has not paid EU fine. It was shocking how brainwashed or ignorant people were in that thread.

Intel was happy to pay the antitrust lawsuit settlement and let AMD go fabless because they knew they got away cheap. They paid it right away. Intel's stock even went up after the announcement because shareholders for Intel knew they made off like a bandit on that lawsuit.

Not only did every single article reflect, beside the PCper, state AMD got paid the lawsuit, AMD's own financials reflected it and everything. Even in the face of this, people made up BS accounting to make it look like Intel didn't pay. When confronted with hard facts and financial tables, they wanted to believe Intel didn't pay AMD. It was mindnumbing.

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What to do with Intel anti-trust fine, biggrin.gif or law and justice in Twilihgt Zone, excuse me I'm going to throw up. wink.gif

https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Intel-still-hasnt-paid-AMD-12-billion-USD-anti-trust-fine

Next time try and hold off from insulting people about being wrong, especially when you guys are actually wrong.

You are all talking about the $1.25 Billion the United States awarded AMD for Intel's practices, which was paid. However, the EU fined Intel another $1.25 Billion, which Intel fought, and lost appeal of, yet still hasn't paid.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-intel-court-eu-idUSKBN0EN0M120140612
    
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Next time try and hold off from insulting people about being wrong, especially when you guys are actually wrong.

You are all talking about the $1.25 Billion the United States awarded AMD for Intel's practices, which was paid. However, the EU fined Intel another $1.25 Billion, which Intel fought, and lost appeal of, yet still hasn't paid.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-intel-court-eu-idUSKBN0EN0M120140612

That money will not go to AMD. Even if Intel loses. That is EU fine, not settlement sum.
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I was always a fan of AMD tho I have never used any of their products.

Typical PC gamer.
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