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So my current set up is 5x Phanteks PH-F140XP_BK 140mm and 1x Corsair AF140L in the case of a Corsair Air 540.
It is set up where 2x phanteks are the intake 3x are the outake fans where as the lone corsair is in a push-pull with a corsair H90.







With the fact that the AF140L is my pull fan for the H90; whats causing me to want buy another fan is the fact that I have a GTX 780 HOF. Previously I was using the H90 + G10 bracket on a hd 7950 allowing me to not dump heat into the pc. Since getting the new gpu I installed the H90 attached to the cpu with a push-pull. Due to the rear fan being closer to the gpu than the top outtake my cpu temps were too hot for my tastes when gaming.

edit: I HAD the aio installed in the rear; now it is in the top-front of the case

So I need a better fan that supersede both the cfm and static pressure of the phanteks so less hot air would reach the H90 (and also retire that AF140L). I'm open to many options as long as they supersede the phanteks.

Edit: Only fan I know that meets that requirement would be noctua nf-a14 ippc 3000 pwm, but...I know there delta and san ace fans out there that are better, but I don't know any that are 140mm and are as great as the 120mm sizes
Edited by vividshock - 7/23/16 at 2:04pm
post #2 of 18
You first need to understand 'airflow'. Your fan setup is a total fubar. biggrin.gif I suggest you start by reading 5th post in "Ways to Better Cooling" linked in my sig. 1st post is index, click on topic to see it.
post #3 of 18
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It seems to be that the H90 is in the right when it is right next to the intake. Although gpu is below the lower intake fan; are you referring to that as my improper airflow where the intake air is mixing with the hot air of the gpu? And due to that it wouldn't do any good to replace my rear fan with a better one and for it to get better I would need to replace my intake with 3x 120mm fans?
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It seems to be that the H90 is in the right when it is right next to the intake. Although gpu is below the lower intake fan; are you referring to that as my improper airflow where the intake air is mixing with the hot air of the gpu? And due to that it wouldn't do any good to replace my rear fan with a better one and for it to get better I would need to replace my intake with 3x 120mm fans?
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So my current set up is 5x Phanteks PH-F140XP_BK 140mm and 1x Corsair AF140L in the case of a Corsair Air 540.
It is set up where 2x phanteks are the intake 3x are the outake fans where as the lone corsair is in a push-pull with a corsair H90.
Did you read what I suggested?
Because your above post indicates either you did not read it or did not understand it.

How many intake fans and how may exhaust fans is this?
I count at least 3x exhaust plus radiator fan exhaust and only 2x intakes.
post #5 of 18
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I read the #5 post as instructed and that was the conclusion I came up with. Yes there is 2x front intake. Yes there is a 3x exhaust + 1x fan pushing into the aio.

So how can I go about this? You said what I have set-up is complete garbage, but what makes it so? Is the airflow within the case a total wreck? Is the aio getting in the way of one of my intake fans a problem? Because even after reading the article I don't see any major problems that would concern the temps of the aio.
post #6 of 18
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I read the #5 post as instructed and that was the conclusion I came up with. Yes there is 2x front intake. Yes there is a 3x exhaust + 1x fan pushing into the aio.

So how can I go about this? You said what I have set-up is complete garbage, but what makes it so? Is the airflow within the case a total wreck? Is the aio getting in the way of one of my intake fans a problem? Because even after reading the article I don't see any major problems that would concern the temps of the aio.

For starters, you have only two intakes but three exhausts and I don't know where the AIO is (Btw, does the AIO have only the Corsair fan on it or is it paired up with another fan?). I can't tell exactly where the fans are in the photos you posted but it appears you have a fan blowing in from the rear as well as two in the front. Plus you have open vents all over the place. Instead of air flowing from one end to another, it appears to be swirling around all over the place, mixing cooler incoming hair with heated air already inside the case instead of pushing and/or pulling the heated air out. You should have more fans drawing air in (especially if the fans are drawing air through filters) and fewer fans exhausting it. An example of proper air flow would be all the air coming from the front and exhausting through fans or vents in the rear. Another example would be to have front fans and fans on the bottom near the front of the case with a rear and top exhausts.

The case I'm building now will have eight fans drawing through a pleated paper furnace filter on the entire floor of the case since the entire front will be blocked by 5.25" bays (the computer will basically be a modular work station, HTPC combination) for mounting drives, etc. so the air will flow from bottom to top. There will be a rear exhaust more or less inline with the CPU cooler (which may need a scoop or deflector on the cooler intake fan to ensure it gets enough air; I will have to experiment) and two or three top exhaust fans (again, I will have to experiment). The general airflow through the case will be pretty much in one direction
     
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post #7 of 18
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The fan in the rear is exhaust not intake. The corsair aio is paired with a push fan (phantek) and pull fan (corsair). I am unable to add more 140mm fan to the front. My only option is to go 3x 120mm if that was to add more intake.
post #8 of 18
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The fan in the rear is exhaust not intake...

You're correct (I plead Senioritis). I stand...er...sit corrected. I'll let Doyle suggest how to fix your situation. I personally never would have chosen that case (it's leaky as a sieve with no easy way to fix it).
     
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post #9 of 18
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It'd be nice to know what you'd do in my position Lady Fitzgerald (aside from not choosing thia case). Having input from multiple sources isn't a bad thing. My thoughts from what you said is to replace the intake with 3x delta fans to combat the leakiness and actually make use of the filter.
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It'd be nice to know what you'd do in my position Lady Fitzgerald (aside from not choosing thia case). Having input from multiple sources isn't a bad thing. My thoughts from what you said is to replace the intake with 3x delta fans to combat the leakiness and actually make use of the filter.

I would do exactly what I am doing now; building my own case. No one makes a case that will meet my needs and I'm tired of compromising.
     
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