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How much longer until we get pop ups prompting us to switch to Windows Defender instead because it's so much better than any other antivirus?
Actually it auto turns off once you install an anitvirus and you completely forget about.
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Edge isn't actually that bad... Chrome can't handle some things... I literally cannot run more than 2-3 tabs of tradingview without it getting bogged down and laggy where I can run like 20 tabs (no need for more) in FF or Edge without issue. It also doesn't like Netflix/Hulu very much, it sometimes wants to lag out with dropped frames once every 5-6 seconds. I've played with about every “about:flags” feature under the sun but gave up and just use FF or Edge for my video streaming and tradingview. It does handle Youtube perfectly though.
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How much longer until we get pop ups prompting us to switch to Windows Defender instead because it's so much better than any other antivirus?
Actually it auto turns off once you install an anitvirus and you completely forget about.


I think it's obvious he means something along the lines of "until it doesn't behave like that anymore, just like this Edge notification thing".


It makes sense once you start admitting exceptions in the name of whatever business interest. One day you'll have to turn off reminders about having turned off notifications. And one day further down the line you'll have to edit the registry to accomplish that, because Microsoft will say it's essential that you are kept on par with the latest information about what's best for you and thus you can't turn it off. They'll probably justify it with some security or reliability or feedback reason.
 
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As far as the data gathering goes, yes Google collects your data, but in exchange you get free services. Windows 10 isn't a free OS, only for that first year which was simply to keep market share. So you're paying them a lot of money to collect your information, in exchange for what exactly? They have terrible support, and buggy products which I force myself to use because I like PC games. Now they're forcing software upon you too, like Skype, which I've removed 3 times since I upgraded to Windows 10. It magically re-installs itself and pins itself to my task bar every couple months. The xbox app came preinstalled automatically, with a full fledged DVR feature running in the background by default.

So I guess all I'm really getting at is it's easy to assume the worst of Microsoft, even in this situation where they didn't throw the first punch.
You mostly get the same services from Microsoft for free as well.
Just log in to your live account, you can access Onedrive, Office, Outlook, Calendar etc.

Also up until now i haven't seen one plausible explanation about exactly what information does Microsoft "steal".
We know they collect information about how often do you use their apps, how many photos you open and many hour you use Windows, how many hours you play and so on. But let's be hones this is childs play in comparison to Google that tries to profile you as best as they can so they can sell you as many adds as possible. Google is one of the most successful companies in the world and they achieved it through adds but it seems nobody is bothered and they don't want Microsoft to get a cut of the action. Why?

Also about Skype, I install only once the app and never seen it since then so I don't understand what you are talking about. Could you explain how is it possible that Skype doesn't install by itself on my PC.
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Google is one of the most successful companies in the world and they achieved it through adds but it seems nobody is bothered and they don't want Microsoft to get a cut of the action. Why?

Because google doesn't have the access to the depths of my computer.

Different environments come with different levels of expected privacy. When i'm out in public I'm in public. I don't expect to have complete privacy. As a result I curb my actions. Stuff I have in my car, I expect more privacy but I acknowledge that people can peep in through the windows. I keep personal items in there but I keep them out of view. In my home I expect high levels of privacy.

The same is true with computers. I acknowledge that what I do on the web is probably being tracked by everyone and their mother. As such I'm careful about what I post online. For example I don't post my home address on a public forum. What I do on my phone is more private but I acknowledge that there is still lots of tracking. I might store some pictures and some private information (like my home address) but there's still a limit to the sensitively that I'm willing to put on my phone. However it is more than I would post online. On my private computer I expect high levels of privacy. It's where I store very sensitive information like, tax information, employment information, investments, my medical records, etc. None of this would be found on my phone.

The reason Microsoft get's more criticism than google is because they have access to areas where a higher levels of expected privacy exists.
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You mostly get the same services from Microsoft for free as well.
Just log in to your live account, you can access Onedrive, Office, Outlook, Calendar etc.

Also up until now i haven't seen one plausible explanation about exactly what information does Microsoft "steal".
We know they collect information about how often do you use their apps, how many photos you open and many hour you use Windows, how many hours you play and so on. But let's be hones this is childs play in comparison to Google that tries to profile you as best as they can so they can sell you as many adds as possible. Google is one of the most successful companies in the world and they achieved it through adds but it seems nobody is bothered and they don't want Microsoft to get a cut of the action. Why?

Also about Skype, I install only once the app and never seen it since then so I don't understand what you are talking about. Could you explain how is it possible that Skype doesn't install by itself on my PC.

That's fine and dandy that Microsoft offers those free services you mention. I'll even say it's great that they do and they have come a long way, especially with their Android offerings. I never said Microsoft was trying to steal anything.

All I want from Microsoft is a stable operating system, I'd pay them well for it provided adequate support and less nagging built in. At this point I'm having better success with the initial roll-out of Ubuntu 16.04 then when Windows 10 was released. Your personal software choices do vary from mine, so we can probably agree to disagree there. However they do tend to self advertise, and pre-install a lot of things instead of giving you choice on installation. I can't explain why Skype never came back for you, it has for me. Maybe we took different upgrade paths. I just remember removing it after I first upgraded, then in October it was re-enabled along with Onedrive. Honestly the DVR thing made me gag when I found out. And the forced windows update are kind of meh too, along with the naggy update message on my Windows 7 machines.

I'll just say Microsoft is generally improving, but their past misdeeds have made me skeptical of them. Yes Google uses my info to advertise to me, but they provide me web based & mobile based applications that have cross platform support, something that Microsoft is just starting to get their hands into. It can be creepy at times, but Google has made it pretty clear what data they take and why.
post #27 of 66
Unless theres an adblock or ublock extension for Edge, I will never get rid of chrome.
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edge is not usable for me due to lack of extensions support

but, it's clearly more efficient than Chrome/Firefox, even o my desktop it's easy to see lower CPU usage.

if you don't use extensions and have a laptop Edge makes more sense than Chrome for sure;.

and Google was just as dirty trying to push Chrome on google and stealthily packed with other software; at least MS is giving good advice, it's actually true that Edge can save you some battery.
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post #29 of 66
Nothing new really.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-launches-dont-get-scroogled-campaign-against-google/



Macrohard doesn't go through your emails to sell you ads because they just straight up sell them to you. biggrin.gif
post #30 of 66
cant believe how STUPID MS has become, instead of actualy making good a good OS they try and install it without your permission, and on windows 10 give BS messages about other browsers urging you to switch rolleyes.gif HOPEFULLY in 5 to 10 years MS is DEAD and all the dev support runs to LINUX thumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gif
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