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post #1 of 10
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Hello All,

I'm looking to upgrade next month, as a friend of mine is going to purchase my 4790k/Mobo/RAM from me, and I'm considering upgrading to a Z170 or X99 based system. My intentions for the system use is as follows:

Gaming.
Live Streaming (Although I have a second PC that acts as an RTMP forwarding server).
Occassional Video Editing (about twice a month)

Considering I live near a Microcenter, I'll be purchasing the CPU there (and if they have the mobo I want as well). Should I go for the 5820k,the 6800k, or save money in general and go with the 6700k on the Z170 platform? I will be overclocking whichever CPU I get as well (any money saved will go towards a custom liquid cooling loop).

Also for Motherboards, I'm partial to Gigabyte and ASUS, and for the Gigabyte Motherboards I was thinking of the Designare boards. Should I just stick with one of the cheaper Gaming based boards they sell? Or is there a better ASUS board that I should consider? I'm looking to spend around the $400 range at most for the motherboard, but of course wouldn't mind spending under that.


Thanks in advance for the advice!
Edited by Cyn - 7/23/16 at 9:14pm
post #2 of 10
You're looking to spend $400 at most for a new CPU, motherboard and RAM? You might as well put that toward that custom loop instead.

Going from the i7-4790K to i7-6700K is a minor update, definitely not worth the investment. If you go X99, I don't see any reason to go with an i7-6800K over an i7-5820K, especially with $80 separating them. My advice would be to stick with what you already have.
post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post

You're looking to spend $400 at most for a new CPU, motherboard and RAM? You might as well put that toward that custom loop instead.

Going from the i7-4790K to i7-6700K is a minor update, definitely not worth the investment. If you go X99, I don't see any reason to go with an i7-6800K over an i7-5820K, especially with $80 separating them. My advice would be to stick with what you already have.

I should have been more specific, but I meant $400 on the motherboard only. (I edited the post to reflect this).
post #4 of 10
This is what I would do with Microcenter near me:

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820k - $319.99 @ Microcenter
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-Phoenix - $309.99 @ Microcenter

You are also going to need memory:

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) - $61.99 @ Newegg

Reason why I wouldn't go with Broadwell-E is the 5820k will last you quite a while, and by the time you are ready to drop in something more powerful the used market for current gen Xeons will seriously drop in price. You see this now with previous gen Xeons going on eBay for super cheap. X99 right now is the most viable upgrade path. Because in about 3 years you will be able to get those 10, 12, and 14 core Xeons (2640, 2687, 2690 V4) for much, much cheaper and they will still be viable for gaming by then because A) Vulkan / DX12 and B) Current Gen Xeons boost to 3.4-3.5GHz.
post #5 of 10
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I should have been more specific, but I meant $400 on the motherboard only. (I edited the post to reflect this).
I thought that's what you might have meant, but I wasn't sure. It was a tad unclear. Thanks for clearing it up for others who come across the thread.

I'm personally partial to the ASUS Sabertooth X99. I have the X58 version and love the build quality of their TUF series boards. The only drawback is TUF motherboards tend to lack the features of other motherboards in the same price range in favor of higher quality components.

If you're committed to upgrading, X99 is the way to go. Going Z170 is technically an upgrade, but it would have been like going from an i7-4770K to an i7-4790K.
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I thought that's what you might have meant, but I wasn't sure. It was a tad unclear. Thanks for clearing it up for others who come across the thread.

I'm personally partial to the ASUS Sabertooth X99. I have the X58 version and love the build quality of their TUF series boards. The only drawback is TUF motherboards tend to lack the features of other motherboards in the same price range in favor of higher quality components.

If you're committed to upgrading, X99 is the way to go. Going Z170 is technically an upgrade, but it would have been like going from an i7-4770K to an i7-4790K.

Good point, I remember hearing the difference between the 6700k and the 4790k is minimal. Also other people are saying the 5820k overclocks better than the 6800k, so since I'm willing to go that way, it may be better for me. Do you think there's any major functional difference between the X99 Phoenix and the X99 Designare in terms of the ability to get a good Overclock? Or is it just one of those things where there'll be no difference or a very minimal difference?
post #7 of 10
The Designare has a PLX chip on with at least 20 extra PCI-E lanes if you need that
Did you look at the Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming? i ended up picking the Ultra Gaming myself.
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post #8 of 10
I'm honestly not well-versed on which X99 boards are best for overclocking. I would look up reviews for the boards you're considering and go from there. Most reviews are pretty good about highlighting the pros and cons of each board. Is there any reason why you need so many x16 slots?
post #9 of 10
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The Designare has a PLX chip on with at least 20 extra PCI-E lanes if you need that
Did you look at the Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming? i ended up picking the Ultra Gaming myself.

I did, but I'm not a fan of the Killer NIC cards. I saw a review a while back and read that there was no real performance difference. Although if there is another benefit to having the Gaming version as oppose to the other variants, I'm more than willing to listen.
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Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post

I'm honestly not well-versed on which X99 boards are best for overclocking. I would look up reviews for the boards you're considering and go from there. Most reviews are pretty good about highlighting the pros and cons of each board. Is there any reason why you need so many x16 slots?

In the future, I would like to have an SLI setup (only two cards since nVidia is basically going that route). Beyond that, the only add-on card I may have to consider is a USB 3.0 add-on card, as I heard that Oculus Rift has had issues with onboard USB ports. I had to install an add-on card for a friend due to this. Otherwise, I don't see myself adding on other cards unless a PCI-Express based nVME drive has a good deal on it in the future.
post #10 of 10
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I did, but I'm not a fan of the Killer NIC cards. I saw a review a while back and read that there was no real performance difference. Although if there is another benefit to having the Gaming version as oppose to the other variants, I'm more than willing to listen.
In the future, I would like to have an SLI setup (only two cards since nVidia is basically going that route). Beyond that, the only add-on card I may have to consider is a USB 3.0 add-on card, as I heard that Oculus Rift has had issues with onboard USB ports. I had to install an add-on card for a friend due to this. Otherwise, I don't see myself adding on other cards unless a PCI-Express based nVME drive has a good deal on it in the future.
I dont use the killer nic i just the intel one and dont have any problems with my board

Feel free to check out my build log if you want or like
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