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You have to admire the way Crytek protects their IP. There are maybe 10 independent studios left in the world the size of Crytek and it's a suuuuper hard position to be in.

They may have swung and missed with Ryse but good for them not making the mistake Epic did and losing their IP to another megapublisher who's going to farm it out to the lowest bidder.


I'll always support studios like Epic, Insomniac, Obsidian, CDPR etc. There are barely any independent AAA developers left and most of them have deals like Respawn does with EA or Bungie has with Activision where they are essentially a second party studio.

The consolodation of this industry is one of the worst things to happen to it.


That's also true, and they should be commended for that. Ryse may not have been the best of games, but they can try a second time. And in any case it's the matter of principle that counts: a new IP that they have in the future, I hope they do the same thing and keep it.

However, if they can boast about DX 12 on such an advanced engine, I hope they release it with a Vulkan render path too. If they don't I can only interpret it as them being cozy in bed with Microsoft for DX 12 and Windows 10 just like they were with Crysis back in 2007 for DX 10 and Windows Vista. The thing is, limiting themselves to DX 12 and Windows 10 is just as bad as having left all the power to EA with the Crysis franchise. They should broaden their opportunities, not limit them.
Edited by tpi2007 - 7/24/16 at 12:32pm
 
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That's also true, and they should be commended for that. Ryse may not have been the best of games, but they can try a second time. And in any case it's the matter of principle that counts: a new IP that they have in the future, I hope they do the same thing and keep it.

However, if they can boast about DX 12 on such an advanced engine, I hope they release it with a Vulkan render path too. If they don't I can only interpret it as them being cozy in bed with Microsoft for DX 12 and Windows 10 just like they were with Crysis back in 2007 for DX 10 and Windows Vista. The thing is, limiting themselves to DX 12 and Windows 10 is just as bad as having left all the power to EA with the Crysis franchise. They should broaden their opportunities, not limit them.
About Vulkan on Cryengine this was addressed in another interview
Quote:
DSOGaming: Does CRYENGINE support Vulkan and have you experimented with it? If you had to choose one, would you go with DX12 or Vulkan?

Rok Erjavec: The current trajectory of Vulkan provides a path to reach PC users across all the widely used OS platforms, including legacy Windows versions, as well as mobile devices, so if I was shipping a title in 2017 or beyond, Vulkan looks like an appealing choice.

If we implemented Vulkan in CRYENGINE, we wouldn’t have to choose one, as titles built with our tech would work seamlessly with both, and thus leave this choice with the users instead

and Using DX12 "simplifies" the work of PC and Xbox port, and Really I dont see what is wrong with Crysis being a game for EA I dont think it would have more success with a different publisher
Edited by PontiacGTX - 7/24/16 at 2:37pm
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Crysis 4 please! Actually, a new IP would be lovely!

I just want to see a new game from Crytek.
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Vulkan, please.

Crytek still needs to make peace with PC gamers.

3. Releasing Crysis 3 only on Origin, but releasing the later and crappy Ryse: Son of Rome on Steam too.

this!
we waited for years for the release of Ryse son of rome on steam, and you cant even change the damn control config.
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Crysis 4 please! Actually, a new IP would be lovely!

I just want to see a new game from Crytek.
They have released some games...
  • Homefront the Revolution
  • The Climb
  • Robinson The journey
  • Hunt Horrors of the Gilded Age
  • Arena of Fate

Edited by PontiacGTX - 7/24/16 at 2:42pm
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Not this conversation again, the issue is perfectly framed in the discussion that followed above, go read it.

I don't see my point addressed at all. More than half of PC gaming happens outside of steam. Wow , Diablo , overwatch, Starcraft , hots, battlefield , Fifa , league of legends , minecraft , dragon age , mass effect, just to mention some of the heavy names. I couldn't care less if a game chooses bnet or origin or gog or what not. Million others as well.
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They have released some games...
  • Homefront the Revolution
  • The Climb
  • Robinson The journey
  • Hunt Horrors of the Gilded Age
  • Arena of Fate

Homefront the Revolution isn't developed by them, it was sold to Deep Silver.

I've never actually heard of the Horrors of the Gilded Age game. I just checked it out and it looks cool but it seems that there hasn't been any news on the status of the game since 2014.

Arena of Fate looks interesting, and I kind of forgot about their VR Games such as Robinson The Journey and The Climb.
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Homefront the Revolution isn't developed by them, it was sold to Deep Silver.
Its developer was Crytek UK.. which is now Dambuster Studios.
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I've never actually heard of the Horrors of the Gilded Age game. I just checked it out and it looks cool but it seems that there hasn't been any news on the status of the game since 2014.

Arena of Fate looks interesting, and I kind of forgot about their VR Games such as Robinson The Journey and The Climb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crytek#Restructuring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunt:_Horrors_of_the_Gilded_Age#Development
Edited by PontiacGTX - 7/24/16 at 3:00pm
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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
it is a game published by EA dont expect to see a recent (published) EA Game in steam

Then they wonder why people pirate their games... rolleyes.gif
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About Vulkan on Cryengine this was addressed in another interview Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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DSOGaming: Does CRYENGINE support Vulkan and have you experimented with it? If you had to choose one, would you go with DX12 or Vulkan?

Rok Erjavec: The current trajectory of Vulkan provides a path to reach PC users across all the widely used OS platforms, including legacy Windows versions, as well as mobile devices, so if I was shipping a title in 2017 or beyond, Vulkan looks like an appealing choice.

If we implemented Vulkan in CRYENGINE, we wouldn’t have to choose one, as titles built with our tech would work seamlessly with both, and thus leave this choice with the users instead

and Using DX12 "simplifies" the work of PC and Xbox port, and Really I dont see what is wrong with Crysis being a game for EA I dont think it would have more success with a different publisher


That's a politically correct statement, saying good things about it and talking hypothetically about the future. What I want to see is them talking about actually implementing it. The statement carefully skirts around the issue.


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I don't see my point addressed at all. More than half of PC gaming happens outside of steam. Wow , Diablo , overwatch, Starcraft , hots, battlefield , Fifa , league of legends , minecraft , dragon age , mass effect, just to mention some of the heavy names. I couldn't care less if a game chooses bnet or origin or gog or what not. Million others as well.


What point? The part you are emphasizing now is more personal experience than anything and adding to that it wasn't what I was talking about, nor does is have anything to do with what you were quoting me for (see below).


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Vulkan, please.



3. Releasing Crysis 3 only on Origin, but releasing the later and crappy Ryse: Son of Rome on Steam too.

As others have already pointed out, Crysis 3 was published by EA in 2013. All games that EA develops and publishes post 2011 and the feud they got with Valve over DLC margins, use only Origin. I personally couldn't care less if a game is on steam or not. Between battle.net, origin and gog, most of my gaming happens outside steam anyway. And Crytek has been prolific in promoting graphics and the PC industry in the past and present. Crysis 3 for example, was no port - the PC version looked like a different game almost vs 360-ps3 versions.


Also, the disagreement between EA and Valve wasn't because of DLC margins, it was because EA wanted to be able to skip Steam altogether and sell DLC's inside games. As you can guess, with games becoming shorter and shorter and with more and more DLC becoming part of what the actual game should be, of course Valve couldn't accept that, not to mention it's in their terms. They'd just start releasing cheaper stubs they'd call games and then charge the rest within the game. That would be akin to accept a trojan horse.


[Edited today to correct misformatting in the last quote above. Yesterday OCN was acting up and wasn't accepting post edits for some people.]
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