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Yeah but if you're buying a 1080, you're probably not using it to make money. You're using it for entertainment. A car will almost always pay for itself in the short or long run. Videocards however, do not typically pay for themselves, there is always a cost, always a loss, even if you resell it.

Cars pay for themselves? That's news to me. You take a loss the second you drive a new car off the lot. Cars are depreciating assets with wheels. And we're talking about cars as a hobby here. You're certainly not buying a bigger turbo or building a stroker motor for anything other than fun.
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Computers and cars are my big ones. Not super crazy with the car tuning, but I do spend a few bucks on it. Hell, my tires alone cost over $1000 a set on my car. lol Money is a relative thing. Some have more than others. Some are also better at managing it than others.

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post #43 of 63
Does not bother me. Very pleased with my 1080 coming from a 960. Titan I knew was coming. But, I would never pay that much for any gpu or consider it. I don't care if Jesus himself popped out of it. I have my limits of what I am willing to pay. $500-$700 is just that. $699 was really pushing it though even for the 1080. I like the $600 mark better at the most.
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I feel exactly the same. I bought the GTX 1080 to have a GPU that will remain viable for gaming for the next 5 years, just like my HD 6950 has been for the past 5 years. I didn't buy it to have the absolute most powerful GPU available. AMD ceased releasing new drivers for the HD 6950 in November 2015, and BF1 Alpha required the 16.20 driver, which AMD will never release for HD 6950. This is what finally made me realize it's time to move on.


They actually did release all the way up to Crimson Edition 16.2.1 Beta for the HD 6000 and 5000 series, but they didn't brag about it:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy3&os=Windows+7+-+64

Release notes: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-Software-Crimson-Edition-16.2.1-for-Non-GCN-Products-Release-Notes.aspx


The driver works with Windows 7, 8.1 and 10.

Crimson Edition 16.2.1 Beta has the newest version of the UI, HDMI audio driver, etc., but the actual display driver is still 15.3 if you have an HD 6900 series card or older.

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nvidia usually has the decency to allow the mid range cards hype to cool down before releasing the big chip.

this time it's not so.

i wonder what caused this?

could it be that hbm2 is too far away?

Since when are GTX 1080s/1070s considered "mid-range"?
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The 1080 costs at best half the Titan X and at worst $500 less. I don't think that anybody is thinking that they made a bad deal. Nvidia is increasingly making sure to space out the cards more and one of the effects is that people won't feel cheated.

I'd go as far as suggest that people who bought a 1080 wait until next year for Volta. There's already a rumour going around that Nvidia will want to use the 16nm node to its full potential before the 10nm one is ready and that the current Titan X isn't it.

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Crimson Edition 16.2.1 Beta has the newest version of the UI, HDMI audio driver, etc., but the actual display driver is still 15.3 if you have an HD 6900 series card or older.


Small correction, you mean 15.301.1901.

But still, is that numbering indicative of anything when the release notes say that they fixed a lot of issues with contemporary games, including Fallout 4 and this year's already Rise of the Tomb Raider (28 Jan, 2016) and even includes a Crossfire profile for Far Cry Primal, so unless that is all wrong, is the driver really outdated compared to the release date of the suite? It seems like it is coherent with its release date (March 1st).

BF1 won't launch if the driver isn't 16.2 or newer. Maybe that's just DICE's fault, not AMDs, but still.
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post #45 of 63
Don't regret it one bit. Not all of us buy cards for our epeen. Some of us buy cards to fit our needs at a particular moment in time.
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There's always something better around the corner., always. I'm tempted to buy a 1080, but considering I already have a 970, the bump is significant, but not quite significant enough.....especially since there aren't any games I play at the moment that require that much horsepower. By the time there are, the 1080 will be even cheaper. The next big game I'm gonna buy is probably gonna be Battlefield 1.

I'm still waiting on the 1080ti.

Also, keep in mind, the 1080 is pretty much nearing high end intel CPU bottleneck territory. The new Titan X paired with a 4790k overclocked, the 4790k can actually bottleneck it from what I've read, and skylake i7 is only about 10% faster. So we are starting to get into an era where once again, GPU's are strong enough to bottleneck CPU's.
Edited by AMDATI - 7/27/16 at 1:16am
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How does it feel now, knowing that the new Titan X came out? Do you feel like you should have waited like everyone else did?

Serious question.

Honestly for the cost of one of those cards for two 1070s will beat it, let along slapping one more 1080 in SLI will destroy it. I really don't see the reason anyone would go after a Titan card unless you are doing heavy workload that require that additional memory and capacity. By the way the Titan X may be 30% faster than the 1080 which I feel is not worth the upgrade and people will find it like they did a bad purchase comparing the cost of the two cards. At least is what I feel, and I think the 1070 is more than enough for what I use it for personally. biggrin.gif
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post #48 of 63
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There's always something better around the corner., always. I'm tempted to buy a 1080, but considering I already have a 970, the bump is significant, but not quite significant enough.....especially since there aren't any games I play at the moment that require that much horsepower. By the time there are, the 1080 will be even cheaper. The next big game I'm gonna buy is probably gonna be Battlefield 1.

I'm still waiting on the 1080ti.

Also, keep in mind, the 1080 is pretty much nearing high end intel CPU bottleneck territory. The new Titan X paired with a 4790k overclocked, the 4790k can actually bottleneck it from what I've read, and skylake i7 is only about 10% faster. So we are starting to get into an era where once again, GPU's are strong enough to bottleneck CPU's.

I wonder if the new Core i7 6950X Extreme Edition would still bottleneck.
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post #49 of 63
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I wonder if the new Core i7 6950X Extreme Edition would still bottleneck.

Well that's not a mainstream processor, and what matters most is strength of cores rather than number of cores. I could be mistaken, but I believe the 6950 actually has weaker cores. If I remember correctly, it's about twice as fast as a 4790k, but it does have 10 cores rather than 4.

Even though games are 3D, a lot of the stuff that executables are broken into threads for, only scale soo much, because unlike what the GPU does, the tasks performed on the CPU don't necessarily scale linearly or process in perfectly timed parallel. So you can't just throw a game on a 10 core CPU and necessarily alleviate a bottleneck. Sure you can still get great frame rates, even with a bottleneck the most powerful GPU in the world will be able to deliver hundreds of FPS.
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How does it feel now, knowing that the new Titan X came out? Do you feel like you should have waited like everyone else did?

Serious question.

Even if I knew it was coming out I had no plan to spend $1200 when <$700 would do the job.
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