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High end? You think? Awesome. I was just hoping to build something I wouldn't need to spend money on next year.

I haven't chosen a monitor just yet as my set up is rather unorthodox and limits the size of my screen. I game in bed. Previously to this I had a gaming laptop and it served me well, but now I want to go back to desktops as I plan to move to a desk once the space opens up, be able to upgrad eit int he future for a reasonable price and to be able to do it at home. I have decided on something like this which will allow me to have my desktop beside our bed and the screen in front of me. However, I'm trying to choose a screen size that is fairly unobtrusive.

That being said, I'll probably go for this sort of thing.
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Unless you want to wait for the new Titan X or the GTX 1080 Ti.

Yeah, I think I'll go with the 1080.
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Unless you want to wait for the new Titan X or the GTX 1080 Ti.
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Whats your budget ?

I7-9000K and 9500K ?
Never heard of them.

900D isnt a case for great airflow IMO.

Dont stare yourself blind on 1 brand, Corsair in this case.

For SLI/CF systems that need to last and can be upgraded to any other SLI/CF in the future i would go with a 1000W PSU.
Then you can run 2 GPU's rated for 300~350W and still overclock them.

750W is more then enough for 2x1080's though.

Best builds would be with the 6800/6850K, 2 more cores and more PCIE lanes for GPU etc.
To save a bit of money its really no shame to run a 6700K, its a pretty strong CPU.

For OS i would take a smaller SSD just to save money, 256GB is enough for a OS drive for me.
1TB SSD for gaming is nice but most improvement you get is load times, not higher FPS. If thats worth it for you then go for it, if not get plain HD's and save more money.

On a 6700K i would do 2x8GB RAM
On a 6850K i would do 4x4 but rather 4x8GB RAM (since you wanna keep it for 5 years)

With your budget it would try to make a cheap but good SLI system and put rest of money in a nice monitor or audio equipment.

I only just saw your edits!

Gotcha, I wont get set on going Corsair everything.

I think with what Shilka said, I'll steer clear of dual GPUs until it's progressed some, so in that case I'll get a 700W PSU?

Yeah, it did occur to me that I wouldn't end up using the space on the first SSD. I'll go for something smaller.

Loading times is exactly what I'm trying to tackle with the second SSD, but I'll definitely consider smaller.

I have an audio set up I'm very happy with already, so I'll take your advice and try to save in some places and splash out on a nice monitor.

Thanks for all your help. =]
Edited by LeviathanVI - 7/24/16 at 9:39am
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4K on a 28 inch is really not a good idea and the reason why is you get too many pixels on too small an area, this means you cant see a damm thing on the monitor unless you either lower the res make everything bigger in windows and games or move youself closer to the monitor or all 3

4K on that small a monitor have the same pixel density as 1080P on a 7 inch screen which means unless you stick your face right up to the monitor you are wasting the res

You got two options either get a 30+ inch 4K monitor or get a high refresh rate 1440P monitor instead
My advice is to go for the second option as 4K with a single video card is almost impossible anyway if you are the person that cranks up all the settings in games.
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Any computer you assemble with modern components won't need to be upgraded for at least three or four years. The rate at which Intel's processors are improving in performance, you have to wait four or five generations of processors before upgrading is actually worth it. For example, i7-2600K owners might have strongly considered going Haswell if they were eager to upgrade, but Skylake is their time to upgrade. If you went Skylake (i7-6700K), you wouldn't be looking to upgrade until Intel's 10th or 11th generation Core architecture barring any massive technological advancements between now and then. If you went Broadwell-E (i7-6800K or i7-6850K), it would be a similar story. I was an early Bloomfield adopter since Microcenter had such a great deal on the i7-930. I have since upgraded to a Westmere Xeon and am having a hard time finding a reason to upgrade. The only reason I have to upgrade is no PCI-e 3.0, no native USB 3.0, no native SATA III and other platform-related things like that.

It sounds like going X99 might be the best option for you. As far as your graphics solution, your gaming resolution will dictate how much money you should dedicate toward a graphics card. Given your budget, few components will be too expensive for you.
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As answer to the edit i did not see untill now no you dont need a 700 watt PSU for a system with single video card in it as little as a good 550 watt PSU is more then enough
Unless you plan on going nuts with HDD´s fans pumps and tons of other stuff your system wont draw more then 250-350 watts at most.
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4K on a 28 inch is really not a good idea and the reason why is you get too many pixels on too small an area, this means you cant see a damm thing on the monitor unless you either lower the res make everything bigger in windows and games or move youself closer to the monitor or all 3

4K on that small a monitor have the same pixel density as 1080P on a 7 inch screen which means unless you stick your face right up to the monitor you are wasting the res

You got two options either get a 30+ inch 4K monitor or get a high refresh rate 1440P monitor instead
My advice is to go for the second option as 4K with a single video card is almost impossible anyway if you are the person that cranks up all the settings in games.

Alrighty, I'll check out some 1440p monitors.
And yes, I'm afraid I am one of those people.

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Any computer you assemble with modern components won't need to be upgraded for at least three or four years. The rate at which Intel's processors are improving in performance, you have to wait four or five generations of processors before upgrading is actually worth it. For example, i7-2600K owners might have strongly considered going Haswell if they were eager to upgrade, but Skylake is their time to upgrade. If you went Skylake (i7-6700K), you wouldn't be looking to upgrade until Intel's 10th or 11th generation Core architecture barring any massive technological advancements between now and then. If you went Broadwell-E (i7-6800K or i7-6850K), it would be a similar story. I was an early Bloomfield adopter since Microcenter had such a great deal on the i7-930. I have since upgraded to a Westmere Xeon and am having a hard time finding a reason to upgrade. The only reason I have to upgrade is no PCI-e 3.0, no native USB 3.0, no native SATA III and other platform-related things like that.

It sounds like going X99 might be the best option for you. As far as your graphics solution, your gaming resolution will dictate how much money you should dedicate toward a graphics card. Given your budget, few components will be too expensive for you.

That's exactly what I want. That's good news.

I'll probably be crucified for saying this, but I haven't found many devices that can utilize my 3.0 USB slot so far... Well, none that weren't more suited to just using an ethernet cable.

Is there any particular reason you think the X99 is better?
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As answer to the edit i did not see untill now no you dont need a 700 watt PSU for a system with single video card in it as little as a good 550 watt PSU is more then enough
Unless you plan on going nuts with HDD´s fans pumps and tons of other stuff your system wont draw more then 250-350 watts at most.

Awesome. Nope, I don't. A couple of pumps, a reservoir, a radiator and a few fans... But I haven't settled on that until I'm set on the full build. I'd just like it to be quiet, I think my girlfriend will be disgruntled enough without it making a racket all evening.

Thanks for your help, Shilka!
Edited by LeviathanVI - 7/24/16 at 9:57am
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Not sure if i got the model name/number right but the Acer XB270HU si the monitor is was thinking about
Its a 2560x1440 IPS panel monitor with Nvidia G Sync and a 144Hz refresh rate, just note that this is not a cheap monitor and it also has som QC problems but not as bad as the Asus PG279Q has.
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It sounds like you want to potentially be playing games while simultaneously streaming video to another device. That will be more difficult on a Z170 platform though not impossible. The extra processing power from X99 processors will mean you system would bog down less. Your budget also comfortably allows you to go with a robust X99 system.
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Thank you everyone for your brilliant advice so far, it really gave me a good baseline to build off the past week and inspired me to do a massive amount of research. So far I have made quite a few changes to the foundations of my build, a lot of them directly influenced by the advice given here. So, thanks again!

I've also decided to turn this into a massive project and build my first ever custom watercooling loop! I'm both excited and terrified for the months ahead! So expect to see a lot more increasingly panic stricken threads down the line. exhappysmiley.png
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Thank you everyone for your brilliant advice so far, it really gave me a good baseline to build off the past week and inspired me to do a massive amount of research. So far I have made quite a few changes to the foundations of my build, a lot of them directly influenced by the advice given here. So, thanks again!

I've also decided to turn this into a massive project and build my first ever custom watercooling loop! I'm both excited and terrified for the months ahead! So expect to see a lot more increasingly panic stricken threads down the line. exhappysmiley.png

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Intel Core i7-6950X 25M Broadwell-E 10-Core 3.0... ASUS RAMPAGE V EDITION 10 LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99... EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN X 12G-P4-2992-KR 12GB SC... EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN X 12G-P4-2992-KR 12GB SC... 
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G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) 288-Pin ... SAMSUNG 850 PRO 2.5" 512GB SATA III 3-D Vertica... SAMSUNG 850 PRO 2.5" 1TB SATA III 3-D Vertical ... ekwb 560 
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Windows 10 Predator Z35 BMIPHZ 35C Monitor EVGA 220-P2-1600-X1 80 PLUS Platinum 1600 W 10 ... Case Labs SMA8 
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