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Wow. I need to edit again, but I can't. I didn't intend to have the word "now" in all caps.

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That is good for you but that is not the rule.
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I want the best colors.

Thanks

Renting a colorimeter in a photo shop near by is the way to go to acieve the best results. Using a foreign profile is like playing wheel of fortune.
Instead using a profile trust your eyes and read how to calibrate a monitor without hardware tools.
http://www.wikihow.com/Calibrate-Your-Monitor

Don't forget to repeat this from time to time. Colours are shifting.
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Wow. I need to edit again, but I can't. I didn't intend to have the word "now" in all caps.

Yes. Can't edit too. Forum is broken. :/
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post #14 of 21
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That is good for you but that is not the rule.
Renting a colorimeter in a photo shop near by is the way to go to acieve the best results. Using a foreign profile is like playing wheel of fortune.
Instead using a profile trust your eyes and read how to calibrate a monitor without hardware tools.
http://www.wikihow.com/Calibrate-Your-Monitor

Don't forget to repeat this from time to time. Colours are shifting.

 

Seriously, you're being a little too extreme here for his needs. As he said, all he's doing is playing video games. So, you need to think in practical terms for him and you need to be thinking about the EASIEST way for him to get what he wants. You're acting as though he requires absolutely perfect color calibration. He's not doing anything color-sensitive. What you're recommending to him is extreme overkill for his needs. It's not wort it. All he needs is a pre-calibrated color profile. If he can't find one, then he should get a color calibrator and just use that and be done with it. His needs do not justify doing anything that's any more difficult than that. You're asking him to do it manually which is ridiculous overkill for his needs. It's not worth it.

 

Yes, he said "I want the best colors", but that's only because of how sick and tired he is of what he's dealing with right now. Lahatiel, I can guarantee you that if he could find a color profile for the BenQ XL2411Z, then he would be 100% satisfied - just like I am.

 

Now, if he were trying to get into professional photography in order to make a living at it, then hell no I would never be recommending that he download a color profile. I probably wouldn't even be in his thread if he needed that level of color accuracy because I know there are professional photographers here who would be far more qualified than me to help with that. Since all he's doing is playing video games and since he has THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM THAT I HAD, I would say that he would be absolutely 100% fine doing what I did and it would be FAR easier than doing it manually.

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post #15 of 21

lol "it's not wort it". Damn. I wish I could fix that.

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post #16 of 21
I told him to rent (nut buy) a colorimeter. This costs often less than a few dollars (5-20$). As a second opportunity I told him to use software calibration and trust his own eyes.
You told him to use a profile which wasn't created with his monitor.

Just let him choose? This is no war. You like your way. That is fine. It's not a good one but if it's what he is looking for, I have no problem with that.
But it needs to be said: your way is not the proper way. The results can be fine but that is related to his luck.
He could even roll the dice.


So, nuff said. Gn8. smile.gif
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post #17 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lahatiel View Post

I told him to rent (nut buy) a colorimeter. This costs often less than a few dollars (5-20$). As a second opportunity I told him to use software calibration and trust his own eyes.
You told him to use a profile which wasn't created with his monitor.

Just let him choose? This is no war. You like your way. That is fine. It's not a good one but if it's what he is looking for, I have no problem with that.
But it needs to be said: your way is not the proper way. The results can be fine but that is related to his luck.
He could even roll the dice.


So, nuff said. Gn8. smile.gif

 

Do you think that I believe my way is a proper way at all? I hope not because I think it's pretty clear that I know better. However, think about this for a second, Lahatiel:

 

It took me just a couple of minutes to do all of this:

 

  1. Search for a color profile that was calibrated for the Samsung 2253BW using a good color calibrator
  2. Download one that I find
  3. Apply it

 

The reason why I am recommending that he do this is, his needs are precisely the same as mine and this method was easily more than good enough for me - so why wouldn't it be good enough for him? Think about it. What are his needs? Do his needs require perfect color calibration? No. So, if he can find a good color profile for his monitor like I did for mine, then he'd be done after just a couple of minutes and he'd have precisely what he's asking for.

 

If he were doing color-sensitive work, then yeah there's no way I'd ever even CONSIDER recommending that he download a color profile. I'm not stupid, you know.

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The reason why I am recommending that he do this is, his needs are precisely the same as mine and this method was easily more than good enough for me - so why wouldn't it be good enough for him? Think about it. What are his needs? Do his needs require perfect color calibration? No. So, if he can find a good color profile for his monitor like I did for mine, then he'd be done after just a couple of minutes and he'd have precisely what he's asking for.

If he were doing color-sensitive work, then yeah there's no way I'd ever even CONSIDER recommending that he download a color profile. I'm not stupid, you know.

yes! this sums up my needs

If I did use a calibrator, would I see a major difference over an ICC profile? Are calibrators so good that I should I buy one? I only use it for games. if it affects games in a noticeable way then I would buy one

only reason I ask is I remember going through the profile of a top BF4 player, and he said he used a calibrator for his monitor. Im willing to go all the way, no regrets biggrin.gif

First thing I will do is look for an ICC profile and play with the settings. Also BF4 has thing thing called Sweet fx that apparently improves colors. I will check that out too

Again thank you guys for the help. I repped you guys
Edited by 2tired - 7/24/16 at 8:18pm
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yes! this sums up my needs

If I did use a calibrator, would I see a major difference over an ICC profile? Are calibrators so good that I should I buy one? if the difference is negligible then I wont get one. But if the improvement is significant over an ICC profile then I would buy one

only reason I ask is I remember going through the profile of a top BF4 player, and he said he used a calibrator for his monitor. Im willing to go all the way, no regrets biggrin.gif

First thing I will do is look for an ICC profile and play with the settings. Also BF4 has thing thing called Sweet fx that apparently improves colors. I will check that out too

Again thank you guys for the help. I repped you guys

 

You didn't have to say "I repped you guys". I don't think we're helping you to get Reps.

 

Anyway, like I said, try to find a calibrated color profile for the BenQ XL2411Z. If you can find one, then you will be all set. It'll be far more than good enough for your needs. You won't have to do anything else once you apply it.

 

You should only look at other methods if you can't find a calibrated color profile. A calibrator though should provide the best results. Will it be worth it? Not if you can improve the color accuracy some other way that's either free or cheaper.

 

Also, if you can't find a color profile for the XL2411Z, then ask around to see if there are color profiles for other BenQ monitors that would work well for the XL2411Z.


Edited by TwoCables - 7/24/16 at 8:22pm
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What can I do to fix this?

Return it, read reviews and buy a 24" 144hz monitor without abysmal color presets like the LG 24GM77 or Viewsonic XG2401? The XL2411Z's colors can only be fixed with proper calibration (requires colorimeter and it still has low contrast) since they're so bad (source)

LG 24GM77 Reviews: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Viewsonic XG2401 Reviews: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Edited by MenacingTuba - 7/27/16 at 2:07am
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