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Thanks for the replies guys! It's not so much budget, as what makes sense.

Like there's no point getting an ultrawide if I can't drive it with my hardware, but there no point dropping a few $k on new hardware now that will be killed by something in 6 months (new sockets etc) so it's just a case of trying to figure out what the smartest thing to do is.

Here is a question, would running the X34 at a smaller res in game look terrible?

Example - Run R6:Siege at 2560x1080 on the X34 vs 3440x1440, and just push less pixels but still have the panel there with the higher res for when it makes sense to do a new CPU/GPU upgrade? Or will the image look terrible not running at the native res?

Personally I think it looks pretty shabby but I'm spoiled on 1440 and 4K monitors so anything less looks very blocky to me. I wouldn't get a $1200+ monitor and run it at anything but native resolution. It would probably look better to drop some settings like anti-aliasing and just run at native. In your position I would grab the X34 and throw some fast RAM and a video card (probably a 1070 IMO) at it then tweak the CPU clocks as high as I could keep it stable. Remember too that your CPU is mostly calculating game logic that needs more work the faster the GPU pumps out new frames. If you drop the resolution you might start seeing the limiting factor move from GPU to CPU.
 
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IMO, build a new PC, upgrade the CPU, put your old 970 in it. Then save and upgrade GPU and monitor at the same time.

If you get a monitor now, with that 1070 or w/e. You will get like 20 fps in siege at that res, probably same for games like battlefield 1 etc. So the res will only work for old games(dota,csgo) and single player games, and you will be disappointed with your PC. You will want to upgrade the video card again etc. That ultra wide monitor wants a titan or SLI, and even then you'll only be happy knowing you have the best hardware, but you'll probably want more performance.

So IMO wait for a new CPU. Kraby lake or w/e when that comes (december?) then buy GPU and monitor at the same time.

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- Do I bother upgrading to current Intel tech? (The LGA1151)

- Is the 970 more lackluster than I'd like to admit with respect to driving these screens?

- Is there tech within the next year that is worth waiting for?

- Am I looking at a total overhaul, for the most part? E.g. Getting a I7-6700K will really need a GTX 1080 to drive games on a 3440x1440 @ 100Hz res?

- I believe the GTX 1080 is nVidias newest card, but is there GPU tech in the near future (1 year~) that will far outclass current tech?

- What would you do with the directive that you are going to an Ultrawide within the next year?

Again, thank you so very much for your input smile.gif

1.) Wait for kraby lake end of year most likely. December i've heard. It's an optimized skylake(6700k) with more overclock options.

2.) The 970 is lackluster for ultra wide high def. For R6 siege you will get like 10fps. Those monitors want titans and SLI.

3.) 1080ti will be out before the end of the year. Probably september or october imo. Next card after that is Volta new architecture. Rumored anywhere from q2 2017 to q4 2018. earliest for volta is 8 months, but probably more like 14 months.

4.) if you wanted to go ultra wide. I would look at kraby lake and 1080ti or titan X(pascal). I personally would go 16:9 1440p. These monitors are really hungry, especially if you play a lot of R6.

I just got done playing r6 at 1440. I was getting like 40fps on the new maps. I really have to play at 1080 to get a solid 60fps. Be weary of R6 benchmarks because the new maps are much harder to run then the benchmark.

Like for instance this benchmark says GTX 1080 gets minmum 50fps @ 4k, and averages 60fps. It's probably more like 30 minimum and 50-60 average depending on the map.
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IMO, build a new PC, upgrade the CPU, put your old 970 in it. Then save and upgrade GPU and monitor at the same time.

If you get a monitor now, with that 1070 or w/e. You will get like 20 fps in siege at that res, probably same for games like battlefield 1 etc. So the res will only work for old games(dota,csgo) and single player games, and you will be disappointed with your PC. You will want to upgrade the video card again etc. That ultra wide monitor wants a titan or SLI, and even then you'll only be happy knowing you have the best hardware, but you'll probably want more performance.

So IMO wait for a new CPU. Kraby lake or w/e when that comes (december?) then buy GPU and monitor at the same time.
1.) Wait for kraby lake end of year most likely. December i've heard. It's an optimized skylake(6700k) with more overclock options.

2.) The 970 is lackluster for ultra wide high def. For R6 siege you will get like 10fps. Those monitors want titans and SLI.

3.) 1080ti will be out before the end of the year. Probably september or october imo. Next card after that is Volta new architecture. Rumored anywhere from q2 2017 to q4 2018. earliest for volta is 8 months, but probably more like 14 months.

4.) if you wanted to go ultra wide. I would look at kraby lake and 1080ti or titan X(pascal). I personally would go 16:9 1440p. These monitors are really hungry, especially if you play a lot of R6.

I just got done playing r6 at 1440. I was getting like 40fps on the new maps. I really have to play at 1080 to get a solid 60fps. Be weary of R6 benchmarks because the new maps are much harder to run then the benchmark.

Like for instance this benchmark says GTX 1080 gets minmum 50fps @ 4k, and averages 60fps. It's probably more like 30 minimum and 50-60 average depending on the map.

I wouldn't be so quick to say you need SLI for a 1440 ultrawide. It is significantly less demanding than 4K and something like 30% more pixels than 16:9 1440. I haven't played Seige personally but I would be absolutely shocked if you only got 20-something FPS with a 1070 or better. I'm playing Witcher 3 with Hairworks off, foliage distance one notch down, and everything else maxed out with some HD texture mods on a 980ti at 1475MHz on a Predator X34 and getting anywhere from 60-95 FPS depending on where in the game I am. Same story with pretty much every other modern demanding game. Even the 1070 is roughly equal to or even slightly faster than the original Titan X (thus faster than my card too) and should handle it fine. Sure more processing power would be even better but point being there are cards on the market now that would give you a great experience on a 1440 ultrawide with very few compromises on settings. I agree the 970 probably wouldn't cut it very well but there are much faster cards out now.

We don't know anything, literally anything about a 1080ti or if there even will be one. I would like to think it will be a thing and I would probably buy one, but for the moment it's vaporware. We were thrown off a bit by the Titan XP announcement. It was seemingly a rushed surprise very shortly after the 1080/1070 launch, it isn't a fully enabled GPU or using HBM, and the price is such that many people won't consider it a good value. At this point Nvidia might milk Pascal for a while longer releasing a fully enabled Titan and a cut down 1080ti in a few months or next year, or they might jump straight to Volta next year with no other new cards before then. We also don't know much about Kabylake. It will surely have some slight optimizations over Skylake and rumor has it that samples are overclocking very very well so it may finally be a solid upgrade over Sandybridge but again all we have are rumors right now. We have a broadly speculated launch window of this Winter but that's about it.

Point being I wouldn't hesitate to drive a 1440 ultrawide with an overclocked 2500K and a single 980ti, 1070, or 1080 right now and then upgrade the CPU/Motherboard/RAM when the next platform is available.
 
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