Originally Posted by Kutalion
I'm not into his reasoning or his misconception that these fans are the only ones good, but he was lucky and he did indeed pick very good fans for both primary and secondary use he's intending them for. I dont really see bevy of choices out there, GTs are nigh impossible to find in mainland europe, and at an extreme price premium. You got eloops which are awesome quiet fans, but are pretty weak on performance. Phanteks 120MP fans are good, but they are worse than the MLs. Their 140mm variant is good, but still worse than EK vardar 140/Corsair ML140. The guy might have a 120mm size CLC which means 140mm fans arent useful as secondary option at all.
Why not? High static pressure will mean loads on garbage airflow of R5 due to high restriction front panel and hard drives behind. I'd rather pick 120mm fans for R5 tbh. Tho personally i'd never use R5
I dont really care about multitude of reviews, 99% of reviewers are clueless as hell as to what to do. Only ones that do proper thermal testing are thermalbench and xtremerigs. Others I dont really take into account when picking fans/WC gear for myself.
And while we're at it, according to VSG, 120ML's are rocking hard. As far as life expectancy, you're nuts to wait 2 years or more to see how long they last in general. You got warranty for that.
Because 140mm fans of similar design move more air at same speed. It really is just that simple .. bigger fans of same design move more air.
What are you trying to say in the sentence I underlined? Many I'm not understanding things, but it sounds like you are just ranting.
I agree, most reviewer don't have even a hint of an idea about what they are doing.
I agree Thermalbench, extemerigs, coolingtechnique, are good, and so are a few others. Cyclops and ehume do good testing too.
You call me nuts for waiting awhile to see how new prodcut performs after after first release. I call it common sense. Corsair didn't even send out samples for review and testing until shortly before release, and reviewers were not allowed to publish their results until release day. Still, you 'lab rats' were paying money and pre-ordering a totally unproven product.
Look at what happened with the first release of Vardar fans that had to be recalled. What about the numerous Corsair CLC releases that had all kinds of problems, some had to all be recalled, EKWB had to recall the first batch of Predator AIO coolers. Swiftech had some reservoir leak issues in their new X2 line. And these are just off the top of my feeble mind.
Besides, I ddn't say to wait couple years. I didn't give any time limit at all.
As for warranty, well they are only as good as company who honors them. I RMA'ed a Corsair PSU because the 'ultra quite fan was so darn noisy that even at an idle it could be heard 2-3 meters away. Each RMA would take 3-6 weeks. Finally I gave up, then a couple years later they finally replaced them with a PSU that is actually quiet enough to be in the same room with. We see this kind of thing in new video card releases rather often .. or used to. Same has been true of motherboards, but there it's mostly driver and firmware issues.
I'll let people like who think I'm nuts to see how something works before I buy. That way I can let you spend all your money on new unproven stuff that looses value very rapidly. I'm not spending hundreds on things that in 6 months to a year are only woth about half or less of their original cost on things not proven to work properly. I'll set back and watch the lab rats try the new stuff before I do.
So please jump right out there and buy all of these brand new products. Edited by doyll - 8/6/16 at 10:54am