Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Anadtech] Full 3840 core GP 102 announced as Quadro P6000
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Anadtech] Full 3840 core GP 102 announced as Quadro P6000 - Page 4

post #31 of 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLAWNOOB View Post

You guys talk about FP64 like you are actually going to use it.

Complaining about performance like you are actually going to buy it.

I wouldn't think twice about buying a 610mm² GP102 card with 5760 cores and 16GB HBM2 even at $2000 if nVidia launched that instead of this "Titan" X.
post #32 of 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLAWNOOB View Post

You guys talk about FP64 like you are actually going to use it.

Complaining about performance like you are actually going to buy it.

This is a Quadro, so it's relevant because those markets use that. Additionally it was one of the selling points of the Titan and Titan Black, so it's still relevant for Titan X discussion.
Triumvirate
(20 items)
 
Osmium
(8 items)
 
For Sale: [FS] Z97 system: Xeon and RAM
$160 (USD) or best offer
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-5775C ASUS Sabertooth Z97 Mark 2 Sapphire RX 480 (reference) MSI Low-Profile 750Ti 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Dominator Platinum - 2x8GB Crucial M500 - 960GB Samsung 840 - 250GB WD Scorpio Blue - 1TB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
ADATA SP900 - 64GB Scythe BIG Shuriken 2 Rev. B PNY Quadro 600 blower Windows 10 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
ASUS VE247H - 1080p Gateway FPD1960 - 1280x1024 Samsung S20D300 - 900p, portrait Rosewill RK9000I - Cherry MX Blue 
PowerCaseMouseOther
Rosewill HIVE 650W Riotoro CR1080 SteelSeries Rival 100 CyberPower 1500PFCLCD 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD A10-7870K ASRock FM2A88X-ITX+ G.Skill Ripjaws X - 2x4GB @ 2400MT/s Samsung 840 120GB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Evercool EC-HPS-810CP Windows 7 Pro 64-bit PicoPSU-120-WI-25 Mini-Box M350 
  hide details  
Reply
Triumvirate
(20 items)
 
Osmium
(8 items)
 
For Sale: [FS] Z97 system: Xeon and RAM
$160 (USD) or best offer
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-5775C ASUS Sabertooth Z97 Mark 2 Sapphire RX 480 (reference) MSI Low-Profile 750Ti 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Dominator Platinum - 2x8GB Crucial M500 - 960GB Samsung 840 - 250GB WD Scorpio Blue - 1TB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
ADATA SP900 - 64GB Scythe BIG Shuriken 2 Rev. B PNY Quadro 600 blower Windows 10 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
ASUS VE247H - 1080p Gateway FPD1960 - 1280x1024 Samsung S20D300 - 900p, portrait Rosewill RK9000I - Cherry MX Blue 
PowerCaseMouseOther
Rosewill HIVE 650W Riotoro CR1080 SteelSeries Rival 100 CyberPower 1500PFCLCD 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD A10-7870K ASRock FM2A88X-ITX+ G.Skill Ripjaws X - 2x4GB @ 2400MT/s Samsung 840 120GB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Evercool EC-HPS-810CP Windows 7 Pro 64-bit PicoPSU-120-WI-25 Mini-Box M350 
  hide details  
Reply
post #33 of 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by magnek View Post

I wouldn't think twice about buying a 610mm² GP102 card with 5760 cores and 16GB HBM2 even at $2000 if nVidia launched that instead of this "Titan" X.

I would think 3 times. Even this Titan X is probably $1200 because how limited it will be.
Ishimura
(21 items)
 
Silent Knight
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
Case
NZXT Switch 810  
  hide details  
Reply
Ishimura
(21 items)
 
Silent Knight
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
Case
NZXT Switch 810  
  hide details  
Reply
post #34 of 83
Why would you think 3 times?
post #35 of 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLAWNOOB View Post

You guys talk about FP64 like you are actually going to use it.

Complaining about performance like you are actually going to buy it.

This is a Quadro, so it's relevant because those markets use that. Additionally it was one of the selling points of the Titan and Titan Black, so it's still relevant for Titan X discussion.

I thought this was the Titan X thread.

And what percentage of people bought the OG Titan for FP64 instead of gaming?
Power Bac G5
(6 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 6950X EVGA GTX 1080 Ti GSkill 32GB 4133Mhz Samsung 960 Pro 1TB 
CoolingMonitor
Corsair H110i ASUS PG278Q 
  hide details  
Reply
Power Bac G5
(6 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 6950X EVGA GTX 1080 Ti GSkill 32GB 4133Mhz Samsung 960 Pro 1TB 
CoolingMonitor
Corsair H110i ASUS PG278Q 
  hide details  
Reply
post #36 of 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by magnek View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLAWNOOB View Post

You guys talk about FP64 like you are actually going to use it.

Complaining about performance like you are actually going to buy it.

I wouldn't think twice about buying a 610mm² GP102 card with 5760 cores and 16GB HBM2 even at $2000 if nVidia launched that instead of this "Titan" X.

1.5 years later they will launch exactly that for $1500.
Power Bac G5
(6 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 6950X EVGA GTX 1080 Ti GSkill 32GB 4133Mhz Samsung 960 Pro 1TB 
CoolingMonitor
Corsair H110i ASUS PG278Q 
  hide details  
Reply
Power Bac G5
(6 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 6950X EVGA GTX 1080 Ti GSkill 32GB 4133Mhz Samsung 960 Pro 1TB 
CoolingMonitor
Corsair H110i ASUS PG278Q 
  hide details  
Reply
post #37 of 83
Did you mean $1000? Because $500 for a 18 month head start is really not that bad.
post #38 of 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by magnek View Post

I mean, imagine a 610mm² GP102 that's basically a GP100 with all the FP64 units stripped out and replaced with FP32 units, and also with 64 shaders per SM instead of the 128 per SM for even finer grained core utilization.

That's 5760 FP32 cores, or 2.25x that of 1080. And coupled with 16GB HBM2 drool.gif Boy you wouldn't even have to think about upgrading for the next 3 years. And with basically "built-in perfect SLI scaling", it'll 4K@60 min FPS with ease. Heck it could probably even 4K@120 in some less demanding titles. It would just instantly obsolete and blow everything away.

And as crazy as it sounds, such a card even at $2000 would be worth the cost, because it's just so far ahead of its time and actually "futureproof". It would basically be the 2600K of GPUs. But of course nVidia is too smart for that, because they know if they brought out the thunder too soon, they'd be cannibalizing future sales, so instead drip-feeding of performance is much preferred. *sigh*

You don't need to do that now so why would you need to do that by getting a massively overpriced card like the Titan? Any previous gen high end GPU (current mid range) is more than good enough to last at least four years unless you like watching some random CEO (who could it possibly be?) buy new leather jackets with your money.

 

I used my previous 6870 for five years before it really started to show its age. Any chip on the 290X+/980+ performance level will easily last years.

The girlfriend.
(15 items)
 
The Mistress
(13 items)
 
Media Server
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A8-6410 Lenovo Lancer 4B2 K16.3 R5 128 Shaders/M230 Hynix 8GB DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
Samsung 840 120 GB SSD Seagate Momentus 1TB 5400rmp Win 8.1 CMN1487 TN LED 14" 1366*768 
KeyboardPowerMouseMouse Pad
Lenovo AccuType 2900mAh/41Wh Elan Trackpad/Logitech M90 Super Flower 
Audio
AMD Avalon(Connexant) 
  hide details  
Reply
The girlfriend.
(15 items)
 
The Mistress
(13 items)
 
Media Server
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A8-6410 Lenovo Lancer 4B2 K16.3 R5 128 Shaders/M230 Hynix 8GB DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
Samsung 840 120 GB SSD Seagate Momentus 1TB 5400rmp Win 8.1 CMN1487 TN LED 14" 1366*768 
KeyboardPowerMouseMouse Pad
Lenovo AccuType 2900mAh/41Wh Elan Trackpad/Logitech M90 Super Flower 
Audio
AMD Avalon(Connexant) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #39 of 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Great job, Nvidia. Castrated FP64 and castrated FP16. This is more or less a Titan X 2.0 with doubled VRAM of the ECC variety. I guess things like FP64 will be saved for Teslas instead, because God forbid somebody wants to use a Quadro for that. doh.gif

Not sure what you are talking about.
Neither the quadro no the tesla have FP16 anymore, as well as the firepro AMD cards. They all have mostly FP32, with the tesla have 1/2 instead of 1/32 on the quadro, but it is also set with all TPCs and not ROPs, so there is a large difference in their capability and what you can actually do with them.

If you are using partial precision calculations, in today's age, you are doing it wrong.
Main system
(16 items)
 
Editing PC
(8 items)
 
 
CPUGraphicsGraphicsRAM
E5-1680v2 AMD FirePro D700 AMD FirePro D700 64GB 1866mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorCase
1TB PCIE SSD OSX 10.10.x Dell U2713H Mac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Main system
(16 items)
 
Editing PC
(8 items)
 
 
CPUGraphicsGraphicsRAM
E5-1680v2 AMD FirePro D700 AMD FirePro D700 64GB 1866mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorCase
1TB PCIE SSD OSX 10.10.x Dell U2713H Mac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #40 of 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

You don't need to do that now so why would you need to do that by getting a massively overpriced card like the Titan? Any previous gen high end GPU (current mid range) is more than good enough to last at least four years unless you like watching some random CEO (who could it possibly be?) buy new leather jackets with your money.

I used my previous 6870 for five years before it really started to show its age. Any chip on the 290X+/980+ performance level will easily last years.

Because
a) it's the beginning of the product cycle and
b) the beginning of a new node as well (the most important part)

Kepler sucked because OG Titan took 11 months to release after 680, and 780 Ti took another 9 months after that (so 20 months after 680). Likewise with Maxwell nVidia sandbagged Titan X for 6 months and 980 Ti for 8 after 980.

Being able to tap the full potential of a chip design from the get go means you get more time to enjoy your product. And if 28nm has taught us anything, it's that 16nm is likely here to stay for a while. So a chip that pushes the node to its limit from the outset means you can pretty much just sit back and enjoy the fireworks. It's basically like buying the 2600K of GPUs.

But obviously this would be much less preferable than if you could get people to upgrade every cycle, so you drip-feed performance instead of going all-out from the get go. Hence my comments.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Hardware News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Anadtech] Full 3840 core GP 102 announced as Quadro P6000