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The funny thing is, when they release the full chip Titan, they'll release Volta within six months, beating it with a $400 card.
I would avoid the Pascal generation by all means. There are very few benefits for gamers.

Other than performance right rolleyes.gif

There is always a better card coming "just next year".
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Well,an improvement over the m6000.

What do you think,$6,500.00?
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for gaming/editing I'll take 12GB HBM2 over 24GB 5X any day of the week

I think chances of us seeing HBM on Pascal are pretty slim now.

If that turns out to be true..what a sad, sad generation.
     
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There's really no reason to get upset about 'cutdown' or 'small' dies. It'll just drive you crazy and to the end consumer they are just words. As ever buy the level of performance you feel comfortable with or the best price/performing model.

This card clearly is not your price/performance winner and it wasn't ever meant to be.

When you really look at the landscape at a whole things are actually pretty good. People always point out that it wasn't that long ago 'big' fermi was being sold at 500 dollars. The interesting thing to me though is that if you go back and look at how it performs the 1080 performs better in current games then the 580 did with the games of it's time.

Just seems pretty clear to me that hardware for whatever reason has outpaced software at this point in time. Enthusiasts still upgrade at the same clip they always did but it wasn't that long ago you legitimately had to upgrade your gear often to keep up with the latest stuff. Nowadays you can still play current generation titles at the dominant resolution with hardware that's three or four years old.

Anyway it's not the right thread to wax nostalgic in but I remember picking up PC gamer in print and being straight up blown away by Doom 3 and the 9700 pro that you absolutely wanted to get with it. That just doesn't exist anymore.
    
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The biggest reason why I miss the pre-Kepler era (besides the obvious price issues right now) is because nVidia dropped the full fat chip right off the bat (8800 GTX, GTX 280, GTX 480, GTX 580), with none of this drip-fed performance BS that's designed to get you to upgrade twice. Plus their release pattern was consistent and predictable.

The prices would honestly be somewhat more palatable if they stuck to the old model, but noooooooo, ever since Kepler all we got initially were the faux x80 flagships only to be followed up by the big daddy chips 6-11 months later. Well at least Titan XP is releasing 2 months after 1080, but then it really makes you suspicious if they're just sandbagging something even better only to drop it 9 months later.
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for gaming/editing I'll take 12GB HBM2 over 24GB 5X any day of the week

I think chances of us seeing HBM on Pascal are pretty slim now.

If that turns out to be true..what a sad, sad generation.

There is still Pascal Gen 2 next year which I think is much more likely than Volta after just 1 Gen of pascal.
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There is still Pascal Gen 2 next year which I think is much more likely than Volta after just 1 Gen of pascal.

Depends on how Nvidia had planned their architectures for 16/10nm nodes. If they are going to put Volta in 10nm node, then they probably prepared 2nd gen Pascal already for next Summer. If they redesigned Volta on 16nm, then we would x80 Volta GPUs next summer instead.
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You guys talk about FP64 like you are actually going to use it.

Complaining about performance like you are actually going to buy it.

 

We use FP64 in my lab. Some of the smaller units in our network of labs bought OG Titans a few years ago because the price was right and they offered enough FP64 performance for the use-cases at a relatively good price. I keep an eye on these kinds of things because I can save my lab a decent bit of money which can then remain in discretionary for other fancy gizmos.

 

As someone who churned through Fury X's, Furries, 390x's, 390's, all on whims, I would most certainly consider Titans even having seen what Nvidia did with the 780 Ti and the 980 Ti. Issues with this particular Titan don't mean I'll never consider a Titan; I just keep waiting for them to make one that I'd use in a gaming rig. The cut-down Quadro Titan Ti Pascal Edition just isn't shivvering me timbers. I honestly was about to pick up a pair of Titan X's when the Fury X rumour-mongering and talk of HBM surfaced. I'm a sucker for that new-new and nothing about Titan XP ME NT is setting it apart from its generational counterparts save moar and cool name (and then they botched the name!).

     
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We use FP64 in my lab. Some of the smaller units in our network of labs bought OG Titans a few years ago because the price was right and they offered enough FP64 performance for the use-cases at a relatively good price. I keep an eye on these kinds of things because I can save my lab a decent bit of money which can then remain in discretionary for other fancy gizmos.

As someone who churned through Fury X's, Furries, 390x's, 390's, all on whims, I would most certainly consider Titans even having seen what Nvidia did with the 780 Ti and the 980 Ti. Issues with this particular Titan don't mean I'll never consider a Titan; I just keep waiting for them to make one that I'd use in a gaming rig. The cut-down Quadro Titan Ti Pascal Edition just isn't shivvering me timbers. I honestly was about to pick up a pair of Titan X's when the Fury X rumour-mongering and talk of HBM surfaced. I'm a sucker for that new-new and nothing about Titan XP ME NT is setting it apart from its generational counterparts save moar and cool name (and then they botched the name!).

Ah ha! Including FP64 on anything below a Tesla IS a bad idea! I knew it!

You have plenty of budget to get Teslas but instead you don't give it to Nvidia, saving it for something else, and buy Titans. Now we know why they made two dies. biggrin.gif

edit: Like ECC memory on anything below a Xeon, if you need it you can pay but you might not if they don't make you, and everyone who cannot pay doesn't care about it anyway. tongue.gif
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:D JHH is nothing if not a consummate businessman. He's onto us sneaky science-types.

     
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