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Andromeda -- E-ATX and two 360 rads in a mid tower case.

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Hello there everyone. This build is going to be something with some small/simple mods, that anyone can do easily. I'll say it's "nothing special," aside from the hardware perhaps. But this is a build the average-joe PC builder could duplicate without any hassle as far as fitment goes, and will perform pretty darn great for quite a few years to come. The purpose of this build is for quite a few things: CAD/3D modelling, photography and videography work, recording and streaming game play, and just to be an all around amazing and high speed build. So, let's get into it.

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Parts Selection And Design:

Case: Phanteks Evolv ATX TG (Silver)
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage V Edition 10
Processor: Intel Core i7-6950X
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 64GB (8x8 GB, 3,200 MHz, 15-17-17-35)
Storage: Intel 730 Series 480GB, Western Digital Black 6TB
Graphics: NVidia GTX 980 SLI NVidia GTX 1080 SLI
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000X
Cooling: Full custom loop featuring all EKWB hardware, and Noctua NF-F12 fans


I've always loved silver aluminum, so, the case and many components like the SSD and memory modules fit into that design. I also went with a monochromatic theme as far as parts and coloring else where go, by use of a lot of black, gray, and nickel accents. To add a "pop" of color, my motherboard has RGB LED lighting, as well as a header to control lighting strips. I'm still debating between this method and the NZXT Hue+, as the Hue+ is an incredible little lighting device. I originally planned on using two 980's, but, after seeing the performance of one of them, I ended up upgrading to them. The pictures so far have the single, old GTX 980. New pictures will be added. I'll be squeezing in my motherboard, which is an E-ATX motherboard that is 272mm wide, into this mid-tower case that officially only supports 264mm wide motherboards. I'll also be squeezing in a top-mounted and front-mounted 360mm radiator.

I'm still not 100% on loop flow/order yet, but, it's basically looking like the following:

Reservoir/pump combo -> 2 GPU's in parallel -> top rad -> CPU -> front rad -> reservoir/pump combo

I'm considering either EK's Triple Parallel FC bridge for the cards, or just using compression fittings to parallel the GPU's. I'm also considering using QDC's on each side of the paralleled GPU's. This would allow for quick GPU removal, in the event of an upgrade, and as well as testing the CPU without GPU's being connected. But, it is quite a few more points of potential failure, and, I will likely only upgrade GPU's once ever few years. So, I'm probably best off doing all-around maintenance when that time comes, and cleaning the blocks and rads, and taking the assembly apart every few years anyways.

I'm looking for a drainage spot currently also, and I think I'm just going to use a cross/T-fitting at the lowest point of the loop and use that as a drainage port.

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Obstacles and Fitment "Mods":

There were quite a few obstacles in making the build. One was fitting my motherboard. The case has an angled piece of the motherboard tray, and Phanteks officially only supports 264mm wide motherboards. The one I chose is 272mm wide. By removing the backplate to my motherboard (an unnecessary step for those using a 272mm wide board WITHOUT a backplate) and adding a nicely placed layer of electrical tape along the back-side right (24-pin) side of the motherboard, I made it fit and secure from shorting out.

Tight fitment


The cable grommets also need to be removed for proper fitment of 272mm wide boards, and you can see the vinyl insulation tape on the motherboard.


Another small issue I encountered, was, the lack of 3.5" storage. Since I wanted a front mounted 360mm radiator, I had to remove the 3.5" drive cage for this to be possible. Luckily, in the basement of the case, there is a mount for Phanteks 2.5" drive caddies, as well as a special and sold-separately 3.5" caddy.


I also had another issue encountered, where, actually fitting the two 120mm radiators was very difficult. My top radiator is an EK SE 360, which is a 360mm * 26mm thick radiator. The front radiator is an EK PE 360, 360mm * 38mm. They're literally squeezing against each other, with the EK SE 360 mounted further back than the Phanteks top-radiator mounting system really allows for. I had to remove the top panel, loosely secure the top radiator to the bracket so it could slide around. Then, place the radiator bracket into the case, slide the radiator as far back as possible. It's now touching the rear panel of the case. And then I tightened it down and added a few more screws afterwards. To do this, you'll likely need to use allen screws, so you can actually get a tool to tighten the screws in there.

Here you see the radiator placed on the bracket loosely. Be sure to only add whatever is needed to hold it, as adding too many will prevent it from sliding like you'll need it to.


If you compare this to the previous image, it can be slid over. Be careful, as you can scratch your radiator paint like I did.


Using an allen key to tighten the screws after placing the bracket in the case. This is why the top panel needed to be removed.


Now, you can slide the radiator bracket into the top of the case, and secure it in the case. You can also slide the radiator over as far back as possible, and then tighten down the screws. You can, and might want to, add a few more where possible before.


And here it is, mounted, secured, and placed father back than even the side-panel border allows you to normally push it in.


This preview image shows how close the top and front radiator are in the top right corner of the case. Even after all this, getting the front radiator in required me to remove the fans from the top radiator to allow it to be put into place.


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The Future of the Build

I know it's a very "over-kill" PC, but, I designed it with longevity in mind. The 6950X, and 64GB of RAM, as well as all the storage should be quite good specs for a long amount of time. I'll likely update my GPU's once or twice throughout this build's lifespan. I'm hoping to add a Samsung 960 Pro 1TB NVMe SSD (rumored to release around Q4 2016), as well as eventually add some kind of RGB LED lighting kit. If NVidia ever decides to officially support 3-way SLI, that's also a possibility, but it would require my to remove a port/mod the middle GPU, as I'll also be adding an HDMI screen capture card into this build at some point. Between the GPU's, NVMe SSD, and the screen capture card, I'll also be using up 37 of the 40 available PCI lanes on my CPU. Here's some random pictures I've take of the build so far, and there will be more to come. Very soon.

























Edited by Sazexa - 7/25/16 at 6:05pm
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Subbed! That's a lot of hardware for a mid tower lol. thumb.gif
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Did you ever have 980s in SLI?? Just like to know how much of a performance gain you got upgrading to the 1080s. I'm looking to do the same and wondering if it's worth it
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Did you ever have 980s in SLI?? Just like to know how much of a performance gain you got upgrading to the 1080s. I'm looking to do the same and wondering if it's worth it
From everything I've seen online, the GTX 1080 is about 2x the performance of a single 980. So, effectively, two GTX 1080's would be like four 980's. A little better, actually, as four way SLI has abysmal scaling compared to two way.

I haven't tested much, but in Doom and The Witcher 3, I have 60+ FPS at ultra settings. I benchmarked Tomb Raider (2013? The reboot from a few years back.) In 3,440 x 1,440 at max settings, I got an average of 133 FPS
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Is it absolutely necessary to remove the backplate on the rampage motherboard?
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Is it absolutely necessary to remove the backplate on the rampage motherboard?
For proper fitment and to not have the motherboard flex, yes, it is.
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Dang, ok, thanks. I'm struggling for a proper case for mine. Have a 780t but really dislike the clunky plastic housing around the steel cage. Wanted a case labs bull yet but don't think air cooler gpu's will do well. Might have to go back to another Mercury s8. Thanks for the info.
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Dang, ok, thanks. I'm struggling for a proper case for mine. Have a 780t but really dislike the clunky plastic housing around the steel cage. Wanted a case labs bull yet but don't think air cooler gpu's will do well. Might have to go back to another Mercury s8. Thanks for the info.
A few of the new Lian Like cases that are cube shaped, as well as the In Win 909 will accept this board and are made of high quality stuff. But also very expensive
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A few of the new Lian Like cases that are cube shaped, as well as the In Win 909 will accept this board and are made of high quality stuff. But also very expensive

Not a fan of the Inwin 909, strange layout and off to me. I have considered a couple Lian li's and might revisit them again at this point. I know they and caselabs are expensive, it's a little bit of an issue but not a show stopper. Have so much invested in hardware a really nice case is worth the extra cost to me. Thank you for the info and love the build man, great job!
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Small update, almost ready for the watercooling.




I ran into some strange issues I had to sort through, and I'm glad I waited to watercool it.
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Overclock.net › Forums › Case Mods & Cases › Builds & Case Mods › Build Logs › Andromeda -- E-ATX and two 360 rads in a mid tower case.