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Seriously, if you're working 130 hours a week at a large tech company where the resources should be vast and at least partially redundant, the problem is you.

People like Mayer exemplify the worst in American work culture. The number of hours worked isn't impressive in a good way and nobody these days is going to commend you for being that much of a hard worker without also silently thinking that you need to get a life. If you work 130 hours a week, the real questions are what are you doing with that time and why can't somebody else be doing some of it?

It's pretty obvious why people didn't like working under her. If she was able to do 130 hours a week at Google, she was going to make similar expectations of those that worked under her at Yahoo, hence the cutting of programs like working from home. If Mayer could work from her hospital bed after giving birth, then any other woman in the company who was pregnant at the time must have thought, "Screw this, I'm out."

My manager is one of the hardest and smartest working people I've ever met, but he has a daily Outlook reminder set at 5:00 pm to get the hell on out of the office and go home. He doesn't always follow it, but it's probably better than getting a text or call from his wife 1-2 hours later asking why he's still at the office. There is only so much you can do by being in an office late. Your mind gets stressed, your efficiency tanks, and there's a point where you're better off walking away for the day because no amount of extra time you spend on work will be more productive than sleeping.

Seeing as how Mayer's efforts hollowed out the company's talent base and resulted in a sale for pennies on the dollar, she could have benefited from the saying, "Work smarter, not harder."
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130 hrs/week...lol ya right. That comes down to only have 5.4 hours per day for sleeping, eating, sanitary, dressing, and everything else. Essentially I'm calling BS.
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Seriously, if you're working 130 hours a week at a large tech company where the resources should be vast and at least partially redundant, the problem is you.

People like Mayer exemplify the worst in American work culture. The number of hours worked isn't impressive in a good way and nobody these days is going to commend you for being that much of a hard worker without also silently thinking that you need to get a life. If you work 130 hours a week, the real questions are what are you doing with that time and why can't somebody else be doing some of it?

It's pretty obvious why people didn't like working under her. If she was able to do 130 hours a week at Google, she was going to make similar expectations of those that worked under her at Yahoo, hence the cutting of programs like working from home. If Mayer could work from her hospital bed after giving birth, then any other woman in the company who was pregnant at the time must have thought, "Screw this, I'm out."

My manager is one of the hardest and smartest working people I've ever met, but he has a daily Outlook reminder set at 5:00 pm to get the hell on out of the office and go home. He doesn't always follow it, but it's probably better than getting a text or call from his wife 1-2 hours later asking why he's still at the office. There is only so much you can do by being in an office late. Your mind gets stressed, your efficiency tanks, and there's a point where you're better off walking away for the day because no amount of extra time you spend on work will be more productive than sleeping.

Seeing as how Mayer's efforts hollowed out the company's talent base and resulted in a sale for pennies on the dollar, she could have benefited from the saying, "Work smarter, not harder."

I fully agree with you,

I learned to hate the phrase, "Work smarter, not harder." While, on the surface, it appears to be good advice, in reality, I had too many managers who horribly abused that concept, using it as an excuse to pile on the work without providing the tools to accomplish it. Many thought all they had to do was say, "You will get this much done in this little time" without any clue what was involved in making it happen and/or thought they lived in a perfect world where nothing ever went wrong. I'm so glad I am divorced (retired) from Corporate America although I didn't get out until I suffered permanent, stress related injury (most notable being my TMJ and autoimmune diseases, such as Hashimoto's Thyroiditis).
     
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130 hrs/week...lol ya right. That comes down to only have 5.4 hours per day for sleeping, eating, sanitary, dressing, and everything else. Essentially I'm calling BS.

Well, the quality of Mayer's work strongly suggests a lot of her work was done on the toilet. It's called multitasking. rolleyes.gif
     
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I fully agree with you,

I learned to hate the phrase, "Work smarter, not harder." While, on the surface, it appears to be good advice, in reality, I had too many managers who horribly abused that concept, using it as an excuse to pile on the work without providing the tools to accomplish it. Many thought all they had to do was say, "You will get this much done in this little time" without any clue what was involved in making it happen and/or thought they lived in a perfect world where nothing ever went wrong. I'm so glad I am divorced (retired) from Corporate America although I didn't get out until I suffered permanent, stress related injury (most notable being my TMJ and autoimmune diseases, such as Hashimoto's Thyroiditis).

I agree, it does end up being one of those corporate-speak catchphrases used by clueless managers much like, "Work hard, play hard." HR departments everywhere jumped on them because they sounded good and then completely distorted the meanings as they relate to the people who actually have to do the work.

It sounds like your managers didn't grasp the concept at all, and it sucks that you had to go through all that. To me, working smarter implies being provided the tools to become more productive. Without them, you are still working harder because you have to overcome the limitations of the current working environment. In some cases, that means being asked to do things even faster without fixing any of the underlying causes that led to the lack of efficiency in the first place.

There is no way that anybody should be working 130 hours a week in a company like Google or Yahoo. The resources should be there to prevent that from happening. If it does happen, it's due to poor planning, whether that be on Mayer's part or that of her superiors, but I think it's ridiculous to wear it like a badge of honor like she does. I wouldn't be proud of working that hard. It's empty praise for signing your life away.
    
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No, saddest will be when Verizon doesn't complete payment and Yahoo's share holders all go "well, that was expected"
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Thank God that yahoo didn't buy Google, as it would have turned out or be much worse. Google is clearly the dominant platform for advertising and search. Bing and yahoo have been way behind for many years. Yahoo mail and Hotmail pales to the simplicity that is Gmail.

Yahoo originally used google search engine, we just all stated bypassing directly to google.
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No, saddest will be when Verizon doesn't complete payment and Yahoo's share holders all go "well, that was expected"

No the saddest part will be when Verizon drives away the rest of the base when they start monetizing.
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Well, the quality of Mayer's work strongly suggests a lot of her work was done on the toilet. It's called multitasking. rolleyes.gif

This is when I do most of my forum reading smile.gif
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Well, the quality of Mayer's work strongly suggests a lot of her work was done on the toilet. It's called multitasking. rolleyes.gif

This is when I do most of my forum reading smile.gif

Oh man, don't give me straight lines like that! wink.gif
     
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