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Yeah but... 3DS carts and NX carts in the same system? With detachable controllers?

 

That makes it sound like it will be way too large for a 3DS replacement, plus it docks to a TV so it needs some sort of fairly rugged interface, instantly making it incompatible with the traditional Nintendo portable design...

 

Where is the second display then? Do you have a unit that disassembles into 4 pieces (dockable thing, controller, screen?)

 

It makes absolutely zero sense to me...

   
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This has Wii U's failure written all over it, in my opinion.


The Wii U was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the "many screens, such engagement, wow" phenomenon of the past half-decade. Yes, we use our smartphones for everything, in the case of many people completely replacing a computer, TV, radio, and movie theater.

But that doesn't mean that you can get people to use extra screens just by throwing another one at them, nor does it mean that mobility is the one and only useful metric. We use smartphones because they are convenient: they can do every basic task an electronic device could need to do, and they can do it anywhere. Most of us, at least those of us who care about things like Nintendo products, still have other devices that we use for other purposes. I have a smartphone, yes, but I also have a monster of a desktop PC because I want that unique experience. I can't play games on my phone like I can my desktop.

Likewise, a gaming console has to provide some unique function in the modern landscape. Back in the good ol' days, a gaming console provided that unique function by presenting a piece of dedicated gaming hardware that was hard to get any other way. In the SNES days, gaming on desktop computers was rare, the games of questionable quality, and both hardware and software weren't aimed at delivering a dedicated gaming experience. Consoles were.

Now, though, consoles have fallen *behind* in the realm of dedicated hardware, and so they need to provide something else. The second major benefit of the old-time consoles was convenience: plug in your game and go, no setup required, no troubleshooting, just pick up a controller and play. That still exists today, and it is a large part of why any consoles still get purchased.

But this? I'm sorry, but no. I do not need a faux-mobile device. Its capabilities will be limited simply because it is mobile, but when I'm mobile I am not going to be wanting to sit down and play Zelda. So I trade away the quality of the gaming experience for a benefit that doesn't apply to the games I would want to use the device for, so where does that leave me?

There has to be a recognition that there is a major, clear divide between mobile and non-mobile gaming. This half-breed device is doomed to failure if it tries to straddle that divide.

I say this as a dedicated Nintendo fan since the NES, but who never got convinced of the value of the Wii U. Do not make me give up hope, Nintendo. I still want to play Zelda, the way Zelda has been played for decades, the way Zelda is meant to be played. And that's not on a Tegra.
Edited by Mand12 - 7/26/16 at 8:06am
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^

 

And that's exactly why this makes absolutely no sense. It's like a Wii U and a 3DS, being neither and failing at both.

 

This doesn't sound like something Nintendo would put out.

 

You can like the Wii U controller more or less, but it's there, it works and it actually adds to the experience. Now, cramming two into one, making it disassemble-able, theoretically portable and not being really portable? That makes zero sense.

   
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Yeah but... 3DS carts and NX carts in the same system? With detachable controllers?

That makes it sound like it will be way too large for a 3DS replacement, plus it docks to a TV so it needs some sort of fairly rugged interface, instantly making it incompatible with the traditional Nintendo portable design...

Where is the second display then? Do you have a unit that disassembles into 4 pieces (dockable thing, controller, screen?)

It makes absolutely zero sense to me...
That's exactly how I feel. It's the same thing with laptops. Good gaming notebooks are just about useless for non-gaming tasks due to their short battery life, hot-running and generally heavier weight. While good portable notebooks are useless for gaming. Then you have the mildly powerful systems that aren't particularly great at either task.

I feel this NX is going to be that middling system. It's going to be a poor mobile system due to size and weight, and a bad home system due to lack of power and 0 third party support.
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...I think I'm going to start ignoring NX rumours confirmed by 'numerous sources' until Nintendo pronounce themselves in the matter and actually show us what the hell the NX is all about.

 

It doesn't look like I'm the only confused one, judging by the piece Eurogamer have written.

   
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Nintendo how about you deliver a stable platform with decent enough hardware like your competitors? Jeez,nVidia Tegra....doh.gif
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I would love a good handheld actually, more powerful than 3DS and better game support than Vita. I don't own a smartphone (just the name makes me laugh) and i never will. Wait and see.
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That's exactly how I feel. It's the same thing with laptops. Good gaming notebooks are just about useless for non-gaming tasks due to their short battery life, hot-running and generally heavier weight. While good portable notebooks are useless for gaming. Then you have the mildly powerful systems that aren't particularly great at either task.

I feel this NX is going to be that middling system. It's going to be a poor mobile system due to size and weight, and a bad home system due to lack of power and 0 third party support.
When is the last time you used a gaming laptop? Mine (alienware 15r2) gets 7 hours of usage with web browsing, and doesnt get hot unless you play something graphically intensive. Even then, it runs in the 60C range for the chips themselves, far cooler then laptops of old. The weight is the only detrimental factor, but this thing still weighs less then my 17 inch monster from 2008. 6 pounds isnt all that heavy.

We also have no idea how large/heavy this thing will be. A 7 inch tablet (ala nexus 7) with half a controller on each side wouldnt be much bigger then a ipad. And razer already has a comfortable gaming tablet with built in controls. Nintendo also made the reasonably powered 3DS. Take something 3DSXL sized, put a more powerful ARM chip in it. The chip wouldnt have to run nearly as fast while in portable mode, due to much lower rez screens, while running at full speed when plugged into the dock.

As for a connector, USB C can push 10GBps. You only need 4 Gbps on an interface to push 1080p60. And nintendo, i am sure, could come up with a small connector that could transfer such a signal and still be robust.
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Are Nintendo fans really interested in this? From what I see, what everyone seems to really want is a GameCube 2 or something...with games, to, you know, play...with a controller...as we've been doing for more than 30 years now...
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All I want to know is if there's going to be a main series Pokemon game for the NX. Since it's a "handheld", they just might. If there is, then I'm all down for buying one of these consoles. thumb.gif
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