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Didn't bother reading your post since you are obviously sensitive and decided to go on some worthless rant about video game graphics after I shared my thought. It's really not that serious so perhaps you should grow up some? thumb.gif
Edited by DADDYDC650 - 7/27/16 at 7:10pm
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Didn't bother reading your post since you are obviously sensitive and decided to go on some worthless rant about video game graphics after I shared my thought. It's really not that serious so perhaps you should grow up some? thumb.gif

game development doesn't always follow graphics. For instance, VR is graphically demanding, but cannot look super realistic due to the fact that it's recommended for it to run at 90 fps minimum. A majority of the VR games so far have been "cartoony".

Take the top 10 selling games for example, I'll personally remove the ones bundled with consoles. if you included it, it would knock most of 3-9 down levels(e.g wii sports, super mario bros, new super mario bros, wii sports resort)

1. Tetris ~500mil
2. Minecraft ~100 mil
3. GTAV ~65mil
4. Mario Kart Wii ~36 mil
5. Diablo III
6. Wii Play
7. GTA:SA
8. COD:MW3
9. COD:BO
10. GTA4

notice a pattern. the games that more or less sell the most either A) offer a new form of gameplay for its time or b) have ridiculous $ put into marketing (look up GTA and COD $ spent on marketing)

graphics don't sell, marketing does
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Originally Posted by Dudewitbow View Post

game development doesn't always follow graphics. For instance, VR is graphically demanding, but cannot look super realistic due to the fact that it's recommended for it to run at 90 fps minimum. A majority of the VR games so far have been "cartoony".

Take the top 10 selling games for example, I'll personally remove the ones bundled with consoles. if you included it, it would knock most of 3-9 down levels(e.g wii sports, super mario bros, new super mario bros, wii sports resort)

1. Tetris ~500mil
2. Minecraft ~100 mil
3. GTAV ~65mil
4. Mario Kart Wii ~36 mil
5. Diablo III
6. Wii Play
7. GTA:SA
8. COD:MW3
9. COD:BO
10. GTA4

notice a pattern. the games that more or less sell the most either A) offer a new form of gameplay for its time or b) have ridiculous $ put into marketing (look up GTA and COD $ spent on marketing)

graphics don't sell, marketing does
What does this have to do with me wanting better graphics from Nintendo? I don't care how many copies each game sells. I want better graphics. I never said the games weren't fun.

To be clear, I understand that Nintendo doesn't care what I think and that they'll sell games regardless of the gfx. It's all about gameplay.
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What does this have to do with me wanting better graphics from Nintendo? I don't care how many copies each game sells. I want better graphics. I never said the games weren't fun.


the problem was historically, when Nintendo HAD better graphics, another console sold better than it. lets put another piece of hardware for example. The Sega Dreamcast. basically ahead of its time, what happened to it, one of the biggest hardware flops in existence. The wii then changed its approach and sold very well. albeit the attach rate is not good, it itself proved that moving the market by adding "new" ways to play can be marketable. it was pushed further with the inclusion of the DS
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the problem was historically, when Nintendo HAD better graphics, another console sold better than it. lets put another piece of hardware for example. The Sega Dreamcast. basically ahead of its time, what happened to it, one of the biggest hardware flops in existence. The wii then changed its approach and sold very well. albeit the attach rate is not good, it itself proved that moving the market by adding "new" ways to play can be marketable. it was pushed further with the inclusion of the DS
Read my edited post above.
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How is this particularly positive for Nvidia. I never mentioned that they(Nintendo nor Nvidia) will necessarily succeed. I basically talked about the business side of it. Also, even those pessimistic for you, my AMD predictions have been nearly dead on and better than everyone here(you were on the 1500mhz to 1600mhz bandwagon). And that's rich coming from you. you have never been critical of AMD once. Your always on the positive side for them, and you tend to be negative for Nvidia or to jump on the negative rumors without even explaining yourself in either case, so the hypocrisy is very real. I have been very critical of Nvidia of their founders edition scam. I haven't seen anything similar from you.

Bla bla, I don't understand why you have to write so much.
Also I'm not critical about anybody, check my posts.
When I first said about your attitude regarding Nvidia you denied it and look where we are, I get yet another confirmation of what I said then.

Your predictions about AMD have been what?
Be serious, you are saying a lot of things and most are not dead on, like the hole talk about Polaris not clocking higher than AMD's previous generation, you were all over it, or that AMD doesn't make money on Polaris and so on.
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If this is true, and Tegra X2 is close enough to XBO power, it will do great. The icing on the cake is if Nintendo lets native Android apps work. If that happens it will sell like hotcakes.

Not even near XBO in power. You'd be at 200 fps in HL2 Lost Coast on an XBO at 1080p. You'd have 160 fps in Doom 3. You'd have better textures too. It's 1/5 the power of the XBO. It's twice as powerful as the XBOX 360.
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That's because they've never had great graphics. Not since Super NES. If they got great graphics and gameplay they'd never want to go back.

They could have put a higher performing CPU/GPU in their console. They decided not to.

Their whole agenda seems that the comical fun factor of their games is more important to them than spending the extra money and time and effort in photorealistic visuals which will be irrelevant to their type of games.
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They could have put a higher performing CPU/GPU in their console. They decided not to.

Their whole agenda seems that the comical fun factor of their games is more important to them than spending the extra money and time and effort in photorealistic visuals which will be irrelevant to their type of games.

They should've made a bridging unit that made the docking system do 4k graphics and the handheld do 1080p. When you plug the handheld into the docking system you scale up. Doesn't make sense they way they're doing it.
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Not even near XBO in power. You'd be at 200 fps in HL2 Lost Coast on an XBO at 1080p. You'd have 160 fps in Doom 3. You'd have better textures too. It's 1/5 the power of the XBO. It's twice as powerful as the XBOX 360.

I think with a Pascal based Tegra X2(If they use it), it could get reasonably close to Xbone (about as much gap as Xbone and PS4) when plugged into a docking station without power limitations, while no way in hell it would get close while in battery mode.
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