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So long as I can hold it ok lol, I'm a tall guy with long fingers, my hands cramp up after a while
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My over-all question wasn't that you "liked" those games, but why play them...  when there are better ones out there (for your time).?

How do you define "better"? What makes you think your perception of a "better" game is the same as someone else's? You're acting as if today's AAA action games are logically and indisputably better than a Mario or Zelda game, but it's akin to saying that one genre of music is better than another. Logic has no place in either preference. It's about the experience sought by the end user, but I doubt you'd understand that as your posts absolutely reek of egocentrism.

The really funny thing is that by the same logic I could say: "If you're going to invest your valuable time in gaming, why use consoles at all when everything is so vastly inferior to PC?

I "could" say that, but it would be wrong.
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The really funny thing is that by the same logic I could say: "If you're going to invest your valuable time in gaming, why use consoles at all when everything is so vastly inferior to PC?

I "could" say that, but it would be wrong.

Like thinking Linux is free. It's only free if your time is worth nothing biggrin.gif

As long as there is a decent amount of parity in the game versions, Consoles are more convenient.

On a forum like this, I'd wager most like the customization and visual improvements from PC gaming enough to dedicate more time to "tinkering" with it.
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Sounds like a crummy console, just like the Wii-U. I think I'll pass.
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Developer Game Freak will bring Pokémon to the platform, while Nintendo’s first party titles include the previously announced Zelda game – Breath of the Wild – and
a new Mario game. All three products are scheduled to appear within the first six months of the machine’s life.
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The same sources confirmed that the Eurogamer report last week - which revealed that NX will be a portable machine that can be plugged into a TV and features a breakaway controller – is ‘100 per cent accurate’.
Game graphics will be ‘somewhere between a PS3 and PS4’, with Nintendo targeting an audience that sits between smartphone gamers and the more hardcore users of PS4 and Xbox One.

It’s a nice bit of kit, a bit of a novelty, but a good one, said one exec that has got hands on with the machine. “It won’t appeal to PS4 fans. Nintendo seems set on trying to upgrade smartphone gamers. That’s going to be a big job for the marketing department.

Been waiting for a pokemon game i can play on the big screen. Hope this is real.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/pok-mon-mario-and-zelda-headline-nx-dream-line-up/0170678
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I wonder if it's going to be a port of Sun & Moon or if it'll be the start of Gen VII.
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Been waiting for a pokemon game i can play on the big screen. Hope this is real.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/pok-mon-mario-and-zelda-headline-nx-dream-line-up/0170678

Well last time they did that it's usually meh. Gamecube had two of them? Both arena games. N64 had what, the stupid picture taking game? lol
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According to MCV's source: "It won't appeal to PS4 fans. Nintendo seems set on trying to upgrade smartphone gamers. That's going to be a big job for the marketing department."

Marketing is not one of Nintendo's strong points.
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As long as you are in the Black and not loosing money you are successful. Not hitting your projections doesn't mean you are a failure. Red Ink does though. I'd argue the XBOX was and still is a flop because it doesn't make money and is and always was nothing but Red Ink for Microsoft.

Sorry but this is incorrect. You need to factor in the cost of lost opportunities based on their decision to create the Gamecube to determine if something adds value to the company. You have to subtract the value of the next best alternative use of the funds invested from the accounting profit. Therefore being in the black from an accounting standpoint doesn't necessarily mean that they made the correct business decision.

Regarding your xbox comment, you're again mistakenly using accounting profit rather than economic value. Although the xbox may have lost money on paper (I'll take your word on it), it created a very valuable brand for microsoft that it would profit from in the future.
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As long as you are in the Black and not loosing money you are successful. Not hitting your projections doesn't mean you are a failure. Red Ink does though. I'd argue the XBOX was and still is a flop because it doesn't make money and is and always was nothing but Red Ink for Microsoft.

Sorry but this is incorrect. You need to factor in the cost of lost opportunities based on their decision to create the Gamecube to determine if something adds value to the company. You have to subtract the value of the next best alternative use of the funds invested from the accounting profit. Therefore being in the black from an accounting standpoint doesn't necessarily mean that they made the correct business decision.

Regarding your xbox comment, you're again mistakenly using accounting profit rather than economic value. Although the xbox may have lost money on paper (I'll take your word on it), it created a very valuable brand for microsoft that it would profit from in the future.

https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-xbox-division-has-lost-nearly-3-billion-in-10-years
As of the end of 2012 Microsoft had cumulatively lost over 2 Billion on Xbox.
More losses were reported on the launch of the Xbone.

If they've made any profit at all, it's a very recent development.

Even more interesting is that these already bleak numbers may be unrealistically positive because of patent licensing on Android phones.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-11-07-huge-xbox-losses-hidden-by-patent-royalties-says-analyst

Which at the outset sounds horrible, but if I think about it a little more selfishly, I kind of like the idea that Microsoft is effectively funneling money away from the Mobile sector into a high end gaming machine.
If I could steal billions of dollars from my competitors and put it into anything I want, the Xbox might not be too far off from what I would try to accomplish.
Really the Xbox program is one of the most altruistic things I've ever seen out of a megacorporation, if that sort of concept can possibly be applied.

And just imagine where gaming would be without witnessing all these gross failures? The current position of the PS4 is just as reliant on Microsoft's bad decision making as it is on Sony's good decisions.
Gaming is mature, but it's still not a century old industry, everyone is still rapidly learning and the bigger the industry is as a whole the more everyone benefits.

I'm specifically impressed with Phil Spencer, I know he has limited power, and "Microsoft" is still a mutilated corporate abomination that is ultimately in charge, but after the Xbone disaster he seems to be doing a good job of channeling the Xbox in a positive direction.
Regardless of whether or not they make any money, the Xbox story is very interesting, and I'm excited to see what happens with Xbox in the next few years (Scorpio's 4K focus is practically a dream come true for me).

Edit: To be more on point, I agree, the biggest battle that any corporation fights is simply "mindshare". There are millions of people who want to stream messages into your brain and only a small, small percentage of those messages will ever reach you. For a product to seen by someone is an accomplishment, to have a product that is used by people for multiple hours a week, specifically in the formative years of their life, is one of the highest goals a corporation can possibly achieve.
Edited by ILoveHighDPI - 8/4/16 at 3:22pm
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