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The NX wont be anywhere close to 1.3 Tflops. Its a mobile system. Do you honestly think it will come anywhere close to the power of the Xbox one which is roughly 1.3 Tflops. What are you smoking?
Edited by Lex Luger - 7/26/16 at 12:03pm
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Much rather have a portable. 3DS graphics are terrible.


basically how I feel.I feel Monster Hunter is being held back quite a bit when it could look like Monster Hunter Online(official chinese game with fan translation)

I mean compare Monster Hunter Generations(came to western shores like 2 weeks ago) Rathalos
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to Monster Hunter Online's Rathalos (MHO is MMO version of monster hunter powered by cryengine 3)
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The NX wont be anywhere close to 1.3 Tflops. Its a mobile system. Do you honestly think it will come anywhere close to the power of the Xbox one which is roughly 1.3 Tflops. What are you smoking?

dynamic clocking. its possible that nintendo can decrease clocks/resolution in portable mode, and increase it in docked mode. very similar on how gaming laptops work, as the battery cannot support enough power to the chip by specification, but can work at higher clocks while plugged in.
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The NX wont be anywhere close to 1.3 Tflops. Its a mobile system. Do you honestly think it will come anywhere close to the power of the Xbox one which is roughly 1.3 Tflops. What are you smoking?

The x1 already does 0.5 tflops and performance for GPU usually double or more with every new iteration. This thing doesn't isn't a tablet so it can be quite a bit thicker. Enough to accommodate a more powerful SOC and a larger battery. Probably something 25 watts or so. Pascal power consumption drops like a rock at lower frequency.



At 1500mhz, the power consumption already drops in half to 60 watts on a part that is 1280 shaders. What you think the power consumption is going to be like on a part that is only 640 shaders and clocked at 1000mhz?
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I think there is a 50% chance this comes with pascal based. This means it has the potential to have 1tflop of performance considering what the x1 can already do. 640 cores x 1ghz x2 = 1.28tflop. Considering the xbox1 is 1.31 tflops and Nvidia tflops are worth about 30-40% more when it comes to gaming, it has the power to reach a touch beyond xbox 1 performance. I think an 800mhz or 1tflop would be enough to do it as well. However, the problem could be memory bandwidth but consoles have done wonders to work around this for years now.

If this has maxwell, it is dead in the water, it if has pascal, I could see xbox one and ps4 ports coming to it, which is exactly what it needs to be successful. If I was Nvidia, I would sell this pascal based SOC dirt cheap to create leverage to create a programming standard that integrates arm + some sort of graphic core which essentially allows ps4 and xbox one games to come to tablets in the near future and cell phones in 2 years or so. Basically a mobile version of mantle which uses arm processors.

Most of that is going really, really far off the deep end.. tongue.gif

Not sure how you think Nvidias Tflops are worth 30-40% more.. Particularly when we're talking about console optimization, these aren't lackluster DX11 PC ports..

Even if we treat that best case conjecture as fact it still doesn't match the XB1, even if it's Pascal.. We shouldn't even be having this discussion considering the PS4 and X1 were under-powered when they released in 2013, and somehow Nintendo will release something even weaker 4 years later..

Nintendo of old are unfortunately dead as far as I'm concerned.. I'm sure they'll be successful with kids and in the mobile space, nothing wrong with that really, but the company they used to be are long gone. The console space is now a two horse race..
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Well if this is where the next monster hunter games will be calling home, I am sold.

I'm just on the edge of buying Monster Hunter 4, but I want to know what the state of Nintendo's digital distribution platform is going to be moving forward, and/or whether or not NX has a 3DS cartridge slot. I want to get Monster Hunter now, but if it's stuck on the 3DS with either the digital platform or cartridge then I'll wait.

I almost think that Nintendo's online strategy is more important than anything else right now.
With Steam I can log into any computer and play my games, it's device agnostic. Right now Nintendo's platform ties software to hardware, you can't jump from one device to another.
Now I guess if NX is both home and portable, then there's not so much of a need to jump around, but I still want to be able to log in on any Nintendo hardware and have access to my games, whether that be a friends console or future NX upgrades.
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Most of that is going really, really far off the deep end.. tongue.gif

Not sure how you think Nvidias Tflops are worth 30-40% more.. Particularly when we're talking about console optimization, these aren't lackluster DX11 PC ports..

Even if we treat that best case conjecture as fact it still doesn't match the XB1, even if it's Pascal.. We shouldn't even be having this discussion considering the PS4 and X1 were under-powered when they released in 2013, and somehow Nintendo will release something even weaker 4 years later..

Nintendo of old are unfortunately dead as far as I'm concerned.. I'm sure they'll be successful with kids and in the mobile space, nothing wrong with that really, but the company they used to be are long gone. The console space is now a two horse race..

user is comparing AMD tflop to Nvidia tflops. For instance, lets jsut say the Rx 480 and the 1060 are equivalent in performance (not literally but close enough to make some comparisons). The Rx480 Tflop is 5.5Tflops while the Gtx 1060's is 4.4 Tflops that makes the 480 25% higher tflop but they perform similarly.

Xbox one has a 1.23 Tflop performance, so a roughly equivalent Nvidia counterpart would be a .98 Tflops. Of course gaming doesn't exactly work this way, but gives a grey area idea.
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user is comparing AMD tflop to Nvidia tflops. For instance, lets jsut say the Rx 480 and the 1060 are equivalent in performance (not literally but close enough to make some comparisons). The Rx480 Tflop is 5.5Tflops while the Gtx 1060's is 4.4 Tflops that makes the 480 25% higher tflop but they perform similarly.

Xbox one has a 1.23 Tflop performance, so a roughly equivalent Nvidia counterpart would be a .98 Tflops. Of course gaming doesn't exactly work this way, but gives a grey area idea.

While tflops are not 1:1 ratio, the performance of an AMD graphics card can extend significantly further than Nvidia on a console for it's utilization of hardware like Asynchronous compute where the CPU might be limited.
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user is comparing AMD tflop to Nvidia tflops. For instance, lets jsut say the Rx 480 and the 1060 are equivalent in performance (not literally but close enough to make some comparisons). The Rx480 Tflop is 5.5Tflops while the Gtx 1060's is 4.4 Tflops that makes the 480 25% higher tflop but they perform similarly.

Xbox one has a 1.23 Tflop performance, so a roughly equivalent Nvidia counterpart would be a .98 Tflops. Of course gaming doesn't exactly work this way, but gives a grey area idea.

i understood what he meant. smile.gif

But as i pointed out, that's when you compare them with PC ports under DX11. It's a different story with fixed hardware in the console space, console devs squeeze every drop they can out of the hardware.

Edit:

Speedy beat me to it. thumb.gif
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Much rather have a portable. 3DS graphics are terrible.

Yep. I much, much rather have a new DS system than whatever this is. Give me a new DS with a 540p screen with PS2 level graphics and that would be amazing.
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