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You are all blind if you think this wont happen, look around, MS is already ruining W10 with scammy stuff like ads on login screen, forcing people to use bling and with the Anniversary patch you cant disable Cortana?

People generally don't see it coming when it takes years to accomplish. Multinationals like Microsoft think in decades. Of course they aren't going to do it now, are they? That would be too obvious and too stupid, everybody would see it.

Didn't people read? Microsoft is even saying that they will release more games on Steam in the future - embrace. I bet that after a while, maybe even a year, Windows / Cortana (with the Anniversary Update it will have the option to beam you ads) will "complement" your Steam purchase with mandatory telemetry derived suggestions to buy the sequel or some DLC directly from Microsoft with a discount - extend. Using the OS to circumvent Steam's no in-game purchases rule is a very real possibility. They are already promoting Edge instead of Chrome in the notifications.
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Maybe MS should break Steam so Valve actually works on the client (gui) biggrin.gif
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See: my avatar.

Could it happen? Sure. I don't think that it's especially likely though, as the risks outweigh the benefits. The idea is out there now. If this starts happening, we can blame MS and run a second drive or partition with Linux/SteamOS/whatever else for gaming. Enough people play CS:GO or what-have-you in Linux and devs take notice.

I like your way of thinking and with sata 3 drives now hitting transfer speed caps. the price point for size will continue to drop and those 500gb 1tb drives will become sub 100$ (someday) (hopefully this blackfriday)
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This is ridiculous.

Not because Microsoft won't do it, but because Valve isn't going to sit idly and let their cash cow decay. If Microsoft begins to break it beyond fixing, they WILL speak up.
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Not that I think this will happen I think the point was that MS would make it look like it was Steam that was broken prompting users to abandon it because it's buggy and doesn't work properly.

The average steam user is smarter then the average windows user. The thing is that they have to do some major changes to how Windows 10 works to effect steam. No way people will accept those changes. My friend is top 20 insider and they do listen.

So the insiders are supporting all this spying and the idea not to turn off Cortana (what ridiculous spyware).

 

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Lots of pro-Microsoft shilling here.

Remember Microsoft does these things

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

Paid someone to write a book suggesting linux source code was stolen

Continues to insist that linux infringes on windows and sues over it, most settle because they don't have the pockets to fight them.

OOXML scandal where they tried to make microsoft formats adopted as standards vs competitors.


Financially backed the SCO lawsuits to stop linux via litigations

First company to collaborate with the NSA to spy on you.

Collaboration with the NSA on internet surveillance
See also: _NSAKEY


Microsoft was the first company to participate in the PRISM surveillance program, according to leaked NSA documents obtained by The Guardian [73] and The Washington Post [74] in June 2013, and acknowledged by government officials following the leak.[75] The program authorizes the government to secretly access data of non-US citizens hosted by American companies without a warrant.

You didn't think windows 10 was free for no reason, did you? It's free so it winds up on every 3rd world computer, with a convenient back door for the NSA.

NSA spying

Starting in November 2010, Skype has been participating in a U.S. Government spy program titled PRISM, allowing the National Security Agency (NSA) unfettered access to people's chats and video and audio communications. However, it was not until February 2011 that the company was formally served with a directive to comply, signed by the attorney general.[82]

In March 2013, the company issued transparency reports.[83] confirming long held beliefs that Skype responds to requests from governments. Microsoft's General Counsel wrote to the US Attorney General, outlining the company's concerns in July 2013 in a [84] blog from Brad Smith including a copy of the letter to the US attorney.

Purchase of skype with NSA money

Complete access to all skype calls

What an amazing post.

 

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This is ridiculous.

Not because Microsoft won't do it, but because Valve isn't going to sit idly and let their cash cow decay. If Microsoft begins to break it beyond fixing, they WILL speak up.

We keep hearing that Win Spy is their product, they can do with it whatever they like so if they like they can easily lock out their competitors because many are unable to think for themselves or are paid to bleet corporate lies and propaganda.


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There is a lengthy op-ed piece over at Ars that puts Sweeney's claims to rest, to be honest.

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We keep hearing that Win Spy is their product, they can do with it whatever they like so if they like they can easily lock out their competitors because many are unable to think for themselves or are paid to bleet corporate lies and propaganda.

Yeah, but that's not the point.


If Microsoft wants to kill Steam, they can easily do it. But won't be a gradual "decay" like Epic's CEO is saying. The moment Valve developers notice something is up, the excrement will hit the fan, so to speak... They aren't going to overlook or neglect their main source of income as Microsoft trys to poison it.
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We keep hearing that Win Spy is their product, they can do with it whatever they like so if they like they can easily lock out their competitors because many are unable to think for themselves or are paid to bleet corporate lies and propaganda.

Yeah, but that's not the point.


If Microsoft wants to kill Steam, they can easily do it. But won't be a gradual "decay" like Epic's CEO is saying. The moment Valve developers notice something is up, the excrement will hit the fan, so to speak... They aren't going to overlook or neglect their main source of income as Microsoft trys to poison it.

There will be a massive and lengthy lawsuit but it will drag on so long that by the time it's solved the damage done could be irreparable.

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We keep hearing that Win Spy is their product, they can do with it whatever they like so if they like they can easily lock out their competitors because many are unable to think for themselves or are paid to bleet corporate lies and propaganda.


Yeah, but that's not the point.



If Microsoft wants to kill Steam, they can easily do it. But won't be a gradual "decay" like Epic's CEO is saying. The moment Valve developers notice something is up, the excrement will hit the fan, so to speak... They aren't going to overlook or neglect their main source of income as Microsoft trys to poison it.
There will be a massive and lengthy lawsuit but it will drag on so long that by the time it's solved the damage done could be irreparable.

Valve can play dirty too.


I can't even imagine the PR storm they could create with a Steam "blackout" for a few days, with contact information for Microsoft's support department in place of the store page. lachen.gif


Microsoft would probably sue back, but like you said, not in time to undo the damage.
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This is ridiculous.

Not because Microsoft won't do it, but because Valve isn't going to sit idly and let their cash cow decay. If Microsoft begins to break it beyond fixing, they WILL speak up.

And if they do you can bet there will will be an anti-trust lawsuit. No court is going to allow Microsoft to cripple third party software so that they can promote their own. Steam could possibly sue for damages if they lose customers or money.
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