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Ian't that true of all fans? I doubt any cost more than a couple euro to make. biggrin.gif

Sure, a true Matsu*****a FDB is definitely way more cost intensive though. Anyway, i was just commenting on it, since they sold it for half the price not too long ago thumb.gif

Edit: lol @ Matsus_hita being censored
Edited by Elohim - 8/3/16 at 11:59pm
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Sure, a true Matsu*****a FDB is definitely way more cost intensive though. Anyway, i was just commenting on it, since they sold it for half the price not too long ago thumb.gif

Edit: lol @ Matsus_hita being censored
I don't think either bearing cost more than a few cents to make.

Funny how the swear filter does things like that, and if someone reports it you get a warning for the asterisks because it is automatically assumed it was swearing when letters are replaced with them. doh.gif My only infraction here is one of these deals. tongue.gif
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Oh bummer, seems now al the retailers have gotten their things together, prices on all the 140mm SQ fans have settled on €16.

Still not a bad price, but not quite the bargain it would've been at €12.
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I need to start checking which of these Taobao dealers have them.
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When I was testing out the NZXT FX140, I scaled back the RPM of the TY-143 fans. The results were withing the limits of 1. My PWM engine for varying the speeds 2. The manufacturer's variation in building them. I've always thought the Thermalrights were comparable to the Noctuas, but cheaper. Now we can see they're comparable to the NZXT, but cheaper. Too bad the Thermalrights don't come in 1800-2000rpm speeds for rads. But at least their frames are square, so they fit right on a 140mm rad.

 

As you can see, they have the same impeller.

 


As you can see here, the Thermalright shares its impeller with the NZXT.

 

And this is from before TR square frames came out:

 


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I think it's NZXT is comparable to Thermalright. Thermalright has been using this blade design for a long time. If memory serves, the TY-140 came out in about 2008. I don't know if they were the first to use it, but they were definitely one of the first .. and many others have followed suit. It is just too bad it took Thermalright all these years to finally release it in a square version Yeah, NZXT is using same design, and so is Noctua and others. It 's a good design. tongue.gif


Yeah, a 1900rpm version might be nice, but with all the variation in temp to rpm curves we can easily setup in modern computers it's really not a problem. I was using TY-143 years ago on X58 system running 650-1200rpm with no problems. The red housing matched PH-TC14PE red cooler. biggrin.gif
Edited by doyll - 8/5/16 at 10:22pm
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When I was testing out the NZXT FX140, I scaled back the RPM of the TY-143 fans. The results were withing the limits of 1. My PWM engine for varying the speeds 2. The manufacturer's variation in building them. I've always thought the Thermalrights were comparable to the Noctuas, but cheaper. Now we can see they're comparable to the NZXT, but cheaper. Too bad the Thermalrights don't come in 1800-2000rpm speeds for rads. But at least their frames are square, so they fit right on a 140mm rad.
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As you can see, they have the same impeller.
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As you can see here, the Thermalright shares its impeller with the NZXT.

And this is from before TR square frames came out:
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I think it's NZXT is comparable to Thermalright. Thermalright has been using this blade design for a long time. If memory serves, the TY-140 came out in about 2008. I don't know if they were the first to use it, but they were definitely one of the first .. and many others have followed suit. It is just too bad it took Thermalright all these years to finally release it in a square version Yeah, NZXT is using same design, and so is Noctua and others. It 's a good design. tongue.gif


Yeah, a 1900rpm version might be nice, but with all the variation in temp to rpm curves we can easily setup in modern computers it's really not a problem. I was using TY-143 years ago on X58 system running 650-1200rpm with no problems. The red housing matched PH-TC14PE red cooler. biggrin.gif


It's kind of funny, I have pointed this out to a number of people who were spending $50 to "upgrade" their X61 to Noctuas. Fell on deaf ears, of course......and their temps all dropped thirty degrees while gaming by using the same impeller rotating at 500 rpm less..... rolleyes.gif
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It's kind of funny, I have pointed this out to a number of people who were spending $50 to "upgrade" their X61 to Noctuas. Fell on deaf ears, of course......and their temps all dropped thirty degrees while gaming by using the same impeller rotating at 500 rpm less..... rolleyes.gif
Have you had a chance to try them?
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Have you had a chance to try them?

Which? Yes, to the NZXT fans (obviously), and am in the process of evaluating the square Thermalrights. So, far the TY-143SQ has been a champ - similar performance in the applications to an iPPC 3000, but with a much nicer sound signature (but the orange.......rolleyes.gif). The TY-147A SQ sounds just like a TY-147A, but seems to have slightly lower airflow.

So, I have a bunch of iPPC that I can't use because of the sound signature.....and the TY-143A SQ would be the perfect solution.....if they came in black or black/white. That red/orange may hold them back in the way the Band Aid scheme prevents some from buying Noctua, or orange Cougar, etc. They need to offer a more subtle option.
Edited by ciarlatano - 8/6/16 at 4:49am
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Which? Yes, to the NZXT fans (obviously), and am in the process of evaluating the square Thermalrights. So, far the TY-143SQ has been a champ - similar performance in the applications to an iPPC 3000, but with a much nicer sound signature (but the orange.......rolleyes.gif). The TY-147A SQ sounds just like a TY-147A, but seems to have slightly lower airflow.

So, I have a bunch of iPPC that I can't use because of the sound signature.....and the TY-143A SQ would be the perfect solution.....if they came in black or black/white. That red/orange may hold them back in the way the Band Aid scheme prevents some from buying Noctua, or orange Cougar, etc. They need to offer a more subtle option.
You are preaching to the choir mate. I would use all TY-143 Sq in Black / White or Black / Black. Sure, TY-147A idles at 300rpm, but so what?

All of my setups idle at 500-600rpm because that's what it takes to keep system as cool at idle as under load and I can't hear them even on an open bench .. so 300rpm is wasted.

Even on biggest baddest cooler 300rpm is slower than needed. Cores on my 6700k stock under TRUE Spirit rev.A in a 23c room with 24c cooler intake air temp at 300rpm is 29-32c and 32c system, but at 600rpm are 26-28c and 28c system so I could idle at 300rpm. But on LGA 1366 Bloomfield and Gulftown systems the Northbridge needs 600rpm for enough airflow to stay cool, and it still runs a couple degees hotter at idle than at full load. tongue.gif

I'm betting a can of good black vinyl paint, some soft rubber rubber tubing about 4mm OD pushed into space between fan hub and housing and a few minutes of spaying would give some nice black fans. It would take a couple of coats and fan would need to be turned a couple times to get back sided of blade and hub support arms painted .. pretty easy to do really. tongue.gif
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