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Hmmm, of these fans, the NZXTs are available through local retail channels. The FX are cheaper than the A15 by 5 USD though... translate into MYR it's a large amount.
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I have no experience with NZXT fans so won't say anything. I have used Nocs and Thermalright and I much prefer the Thermalriight in airflow, sound profile and cost.

I have seen this test results from ehume. Looks to me like TY-143 has slightly better preformance, but more important is it idles at 600rpm, not 800rpm



In another of his tests the TY-143 did much better
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I don't know if they were the first to use it, but they were definitely one of the first .. and many others have followed suit. It is just too bad it took Thermalright all these years to finally release it in a square version


TY 140 was released first in 2010 with the Silver Arrow i believe.
This is the first version of that blade design that i know of, basically a black-square TY 143:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/store/item.php?cat=Additional+Cooling&id=9355&com=d41d8cd9
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/image/15477/fan-966.jpg/fan-966/Cooljag_Everflow_140mm_x_25mm_Fan_R121425SL.html

Got a few laying around somewhere wink.gif
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. . . The TY-147A SQ sounds just like a TY-147A, but seems to have slightly lower airflow. . . .

 

If you will look at the Thermalright website, you will see that the round frames have a higher output than the square frames. I corresponded with my Thermalright contact about that. Even the internal data reflects the same difference. My conclusion was that the expansion of the frames laterally -- when you consider the round frames -- made a difference. It certainly seemed to make a difference on the NH-D14, which has a 14cm fin stack (thus the expanded frames of the TY-140 and the NF-A15 peak around the sides).

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. . . TY 140 was released first in 2010 with the Silver Arrow i believe.
This is the first version of that blade design that i know of, basically a black-square TY 143 . . .

 

I used a TY-140 for years as a top intake fan. It impressed me so much I bought two more. This was in the days before the TY-143, -147, etc.

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If you will look at the Thermalright website, you will see that the round frames have a higher output than the square frames. I corresponded with my Thermalright contact about that. Even the internal data reflects the same difference. My conclusion was that the expansion of the frames laterally -- when you consider the round frames -- made a difference. It certainly seemed to make a difference on the NH-D14, which has a 14cm fin stack (thus the expanded frames of the TY-140 and the NF-A15 peak around the sides).

I used a TY-140 for years as a top intake fan. It impressed me so much I bought two more. This was in the days before the TY-143, -147, etc.
I noticed quite a difference in the 'venturi' shape of sq housing versus round housing. while the vertical areas on flat sides are very similar, the center cylinder is not as deep in the Sq housing as round housing. this mean more open area around the tips of fans because the beveled areas flowing into and out of the fan are much bigger than in original round housing.
The round housing has a 14.6mm cylinder around the tiips of fan blades with 5.8mm bevels / cones on either side.
The square housing has a 9.3mm cylinder aroudn the tips of fan blades with a 7.2mm and 8.9mm bevel / cone on either side.
How exactly this effects the flow and pressure I don't know, but I have a strong suspicion that it is the reason for the difference in flow rates.
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If you will look at the Thermalright website, you will see that the round frames have a higher output than the square frames. I corresponded with my Thermalright contact about that. Even the internal data reflects the same difference. My conclusion was that the expansion of the frames laterally -- when you consider the round frames -- made a difference. It certainly seemed to make a difference on the NH-D14, which has a 14cm fin stack (thus the expanded frames of the TY-140 and the NF-A15 peak around the sides).

I used a TY-140 for years as a top intake fan. It impressed me so much I bought two more. This was in the days before the TY-143, -147, etc.

I was merely stating what I was experiencing. I am aware of the specs, but going by what manufacturers say is going to happen would many times lead you to believe that every fan can move 500 CFM with 16.2 mm of SP at 900 rpm/7.4 dBA, while curing cancer, lowering gas prices and subliminally teaching you seven foreign languages. wink.gif
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I was merely stating what I was experiencing. I am aware of the specs, but going by what manufacturers say is going to happen would many times lead you to believe that every fan can move 500 CFM with 16.2 mm of SP at 900 rpm/7.4 dBA, while curing cancer, lowering gas prices and subliminally teaching you seven foreign languages. wink.gif

Will any of them keep the identity then tea candidates from being elected? biggrin.gif
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I used a TY-140 for years as a top intake fan. It impressed me so much I bought two more. This was in the days before the TY-143, -147, etc.

Sure, i actually bought the Silver Arrow just when it came out in mid/late 2010 wich came with two TY-140 as you might remember, that's before they could be bought seperately at all. They started selling them seperately half a year later in 2011 if i remember correctly. The Everflow version was avaiable earlier though (2009/10) and it's more or less what we know as TY-143 sq nowadays. thumb.gif
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Was just reading ehume's Vortex review with TY-147A SQ and TY-143 SQ fans.

It definitely shows the TY-147A Sq and TY-143 Sq being better than competition. thumb.gif

Vortez review:
. 40cfm & 23dB @ 1199rpm for NF-A14 PWM w/ LNA
. 49cfm & 24dB @ 1349rpm forTY-147A Sq
. 53cfm & 30dB @ 1579rpm for NF-A 140 PWM
. 62cfm & 36dB @ 1974rpm for ML 140
. 64cfm & 35dB @ 1954rpm for FX140
. 93cfm & 40dB @ 2524rpm for TY-143 Sq
107cfm & 47dB @ 2952rpm for NF-A 14-3000 (assume this is NF-A14 IPPC 3000?)
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http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_ml_pro_series_review,6.html
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Was just reading ehume's Vortex review with TY-147A SQ and TY-143 SQ fans.

It definitely shows the TY-147A Sq and TY-143 Sq being better than competition. thumb.gif

Vortez review:
. 40cfm & 23dB @ 1199rpm for NF-A14 PWM w/ LNA
. 49cfm & 24dB @ 1349rpm forTY-147A Sq
. 53cfm & 30dB @ 1579rpm for NF-A 140 PWM
. 62cfm & 36dB @ 1974rpm for ML 140
. 64cfm & 35dB @ 1954rpm for FX140
. 93cfm & 40dB @ 2524rpm for TY-143 Sq
107cfm & 47dB @ 2952rpm for NF-A 14-3000 (assume this is NF-A14 IPPC 3000?)
.
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_ml_pro_series_review,6.html

Hard to say from that since there is little apples to apples as far as rpm. But.....with every passing review I become less impressed with the Corsair ML. Replicating the performance of the fan NZXT includes with their CLCs at twice the price.....ugh.
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