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Also, on the Razer products, I don't know if anyone has any hate for them but when I ran a charity drive some years ago they donate a TON of stuff on just a Facebook message. So I am sure there is better gear or better prices, but probably not a better accessories company out there.
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'2280' means a 80mm long M.2 ssd, they can be 60mm, 42mm.(2260)

Your motherboard would support The 950 pro 2280.
It supports 42mm - 110mm.
http://www.hardwareasylum.com/reviews/motherboards/evga_x99_ftw-k/page4.aspx
Edited by Ashura - 7/29/16 at 9:04am
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Thanks! +Rep, Do I have to worry about the "Key M" business, I understand its the connection form factor but havn't found anything that says the ssd is Key M.
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Basically, M key is the notch/type of socket of the ssd.
To understand it in detail,

https://rog.asus.com/13552014/maximus-motherboards/buying-an-m-2-ssd-how-to-tell-which-is-which/

The 950 pro is socket M, The mobo specs mentions socket M support.

http://www.evga.com/articles/00998/evga-x99-ftw-k-motherboard/
Correct board right?
Edited by Ashura - 7/30/16 at 2:42am
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appears so, I must have been looking at the wrong page. Ill post here when I get the build moving.
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Barring any equipment failures, you will be fine with half a decade. CPU single threaded performance isn't getting much faster.

Skylake was around 10% faster clock for clock than Haswell (and in many cases less than that) and did not overclock as well as Haswell. Ice Lake is rumored to only be 5% clock for clock than Skylake.

To be honest, unless you want it for the looks, the MSI X99A Godlike Carbon is a bit excessive in price.

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Originally Posted by Angry-Hermit View Post

I want to thank everyone for their contribution. I filtered down the MB list to MSI and EVGA and then started filtering based on what I wanted, I ended up with about 4 MSI Boards and 1 EVGA, but none of the MSI board were close to the EVGA price and I hear nothing but good things on EVGA's customer support.

So I have updated my list, you may view it here: HermitDen 2016

My only concern is with the M.2 slot, I have not been involved in hardware for quite some time so the M.2 thing is still new to me. The ssd I chose I am happy with but I do not know if it is "Key m" and I dont know if the MB can handle the 2280 length, I havnt been able to find anything on the specs to tell me exactley. Ill do some more digging but if anyone knows off their head it would be appreciated.

I am starting school so this is primarily for that but I want to build a desk this fall and integrate the computer into it so at some point I will start a build log once I have some designs modeled out. That process has to start once I find a new chair and get dimensions for ergonomics as I want it to be capable of standing as well.

I wont be getting these components until mid September so if anyone one knows of any new product I should keep an eye on let me know.


One issue with EVGA boards right now is that their BIOS on X99 isn't as good as the other motherboard manufacturers. EVGA was awesome back in the X58 days, then they lost their motherboard team to Sapphire and Shamino also left for Asus. They have been getting better since P67 and X79 (a disaster), but it's still a way off from the other manufacturers. There isn't an EVGA X99 board club these days, because their boards have taken a dip in popularity.

MSI has pretty good customer support, at least here in Canada. Their RMA can be slow, but they always come through. EVGA support seems pretty solid too. It has been historically for me. One thing - they don't always honor mail in rebates, which have been outsourced.


The SSD 950 should be able to fit either board. You could consider a PCIe board though if you are doing anything write intensive for M.2 SSDs. They do tend to overheat with sustained writing performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9856/angelbird-wings-px1-m2-adapter-review-do-ssds-need-heatsinks
Edited by CrazyElf - 7/31/16 at 9:25pm
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Thanks for the heads up on the overheating. And frankly all the other info. At this point the comparable mb that I found for MSI is about 100 more so it feels like a good time to try something else, it will be a little bit before I buy as I'm waiting on GI bill funds so that may change. The gos like is excessive, I tend to fight feature regret vs shopper remorse when buyimng parts. I want the bwest but don't have the time to take advantage of the best, so the focus on this build is longevity and room to grow.
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Quote:
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Thanks for the heads up on the overheating. And frankly all the other info. At this point the comparable mb that I found for MSI is about 100 more so it feels like a good time to try something else, it will be a little bit before I buy as I'm waiting on GI bill funds so that may change. The gos like is excessive, I tend to fight feature regret vs shopper remorse when buyimng parts. I want the bwest but don't have the time to take advantage of the best, so the focus on this build is longevity and room to grow.

The overheating will entirely depend on your workload and usage. For sustained write-intensive workload though, it seems that a heatsink is needed. There are cheaper heatsinks too around for M.2 than the reviewed one from Anandtech. The problem is that the M.2 standard was designed with laptops in mind. It was designed with compactness and compatibility first, rather than raw sustained performance.

There isn't a motherboard that has ever been made without issues. It's a matter of YMMV. Look for example at the 2 contrasting opinions on the MSI X99 SLI Plus. I personally own an MSI X99A XPower which has been pretty solid for me personally. A few minor issues, but nothing major. It has been smooth sailing for the most part.

Now that being said, there are boards with issues. I would not be comfortable with Asus this generation, because of this. True, the odds of it happening are slim, but there has been no major fix. I'm alarmed by that one.

Another MSI board that might be worth looking at is the MSI X99A Krait. You could, if money is tight, also consider buying used boards. I bought my board used.
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MSI X99A Krait is ok, its Black with white bits...
I`ve been run my RAM at 3000 with a 125Bclk on the 5820K since Dec2015
No overclock on the CPU as I dont feel the need for it yet,
I HAD to drop in my STX, realtec audio is S#@T!
TBH I havent seen massive gains over the SigRig when gaming but as you are looking to do more `creative` stuff It should be a good upgrade. I went for X99 looking at the future, having played with a Xeon, in 2-3 years used v4 Xeons will hopefully crop up at more reasonable prices.
Maybe some splendid person may figure out how to OC them (Not holding my breath tho!)
Good Luck whichever way you go thumb.gif
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UPDATE: Money came in, so I went shopping last night, the budget was 2200, and I needed to buy a hard drive for my girlfriends laptop and had to get new keyboard, mouse, headset so this is what I did with the balance. The mother board question answered itself. Classified was available. As far as the case I really wanted something that could house my comp for the time that it takes me to build my desk then just put my old machine in the case for the kids, this one matched the dont care looks, value, features.


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