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You know you can just sign out of Cortana and keep the basic Windows Search right?
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You know you can just sign out of Cortana and keep the basic Windows Search right?

Apparently, you didn't read the articles in the OP. For a while now you no longer need to be signed in to use Cortana. And with this latest move the search box is Cortana.


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Microsoft even says as much: "With the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, the search box is now Cortana," Microsoft said in a statement. "Customers can expect the same great search experience powered by Bing and Microsoft Edge with the added benefit of Cortana’s personality."
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"Cortana works best when you sign in, but if you choose not to, you can still use her to chat, search the web and your Windows device," Microsoft told PCWorld.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3100358/windows/you-cant-turn-off-cortana-in-the-windows-10-anniversary-update.html
 
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Is this coming from the same company that launched the Scroogled campaign, telling people that, unlike Google, they weren't scanning people's e-mails to target them ads? Isn't this, by their own standards, several degrees higher up the scale of unacceptable privacy invasion and shameless?
They're just as bad with that. On my Windows Phone (a Lumia 640), I booked a flight for my girlfriend (now fiancee) from Florida a few weeks ago, and had the itinerary emailed to both me and her--to my Gmail account no less--and Cortana scanned my Gmail and asked me if I wanted status updates on the flight, which wasn't going to take place for another 10 days!

That kind of freaked me out. At least it asked me if I wanted the updates, but it never occurred to me that Cortana would do that.
That's creppy as all hell. I can't say that happens to me because win10 and its "functionalities" don't operate the same way in Europe, but i'd be slightly alarmed.

I know one's data isn't analyzed by persons thoroughly; it's mostly handled by automated processes backed by software. There's no need to get conspiratorial about it. But in an age in which everything has a ToS that would take more time to peruse than the time we'd spend using the product throughout its lifetime, it's practices that shouldn't be done without more overtly being announced.

Of course, i'm just assuming MS actually has this in writing somewhere (private data analysis). I don't actually know.
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Just as creepy as google knowing what i've just bought on amazon lol.
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You know you can just sign out of Cortana and keep the basic Windows Search right?

Apparently, you didn't read the articles in the OP. For a while now you no longer need to be signed in to use Cortana. And with this latest move the search box is Cortana.


Quote:
Microsoft even says as much: "With the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, the search box is now Cortana," Microsoft said in a statement. "Customers can expect the same great search experience powered by Bing and Microsoft Edge with the added benefit of Cortana’s personality."
Quote:
"Cortana works best when you sign in, but if you choose not to, you can still use her to chat, search the web and your Windows device," Microsoft told PCWorld.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3100358/windows/you-cant-turn-off-cortana-in-the-windows-10-anniversary-update.html


Actually, when you sign out of Cortana in the Anniversary upgrade, you get back to regular search (ie your files on your computer, your files on your OneDrive and a basic Bing search, all at once). It basically acts like the search bar from Win 8.1. You no longer have the personalized crap & ads that come from Cortana being linked to your Microsoft account.

Edit: And you can still disable it via GPO if you're running Win 10 Pro or Enterprise. The way they changed Cortana in the Anniversary upgrade is to harmonize it across all platforms (Windows, iOS, Android). Sure the fact you no longer have a "turn off" button on PC is making people go crazy but honestly, whether you turn Cortana off in 1511 or you sign out in 1607, in the end it's the exact same thing. And if you're not convinced, well idk just use one of the usual work-arounds to make sure searchui.exe no longer runs on your computer....
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Can anyone explain why you would want to disable Cortana if your personalization option have already disabled her "assistant"-related stuff and she's basically a glorified Bing?
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looks like an early onset of rampancy to me (shoutout to halo 4)
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looks like an early onset of rampancy to me (shoutout to halo 4)

Earlier in the thread, I said Windows 10 Cortana is beginning to resemble Halo 5 Cortana, which flew right over the head of the person to whom I replied. If nothing else, Microsoft is finally showing some promise in their ability to unify their product lines.
    
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Actually, when you sign out of Cortana in the Anniversary upgrade, you get back to regular search (ie your files on your computer, your files on your OneDrive and a basic Bing search, all at once). It basically acts like the search bar from Win 8.1. You no longer have the personalized crap & ads that come from Cortana being linked to your Microsoft account.

Edit: And you can still disable it via GPO if you're running Win 10 Pro or Enterprise. The way they changed Cortana in the Anniversary upgrade is to harmonize it across all platforms (Windows, iOS, Android). Sure the fact you no longer have a "turn off" button on PC is making people go crazy but honestly, whether you turn Cortana off in 1511 or you sign out in 1607, in the end it's the exact same thing. And if you're not convinced, well idk just use one of the usual work-arounds to make sure searchui.exe no longer runs on your computer....

That doesn't make it any better. Home users are out of luck, Pro users may soon be too and regardless of version, people will only have their privacy preserved if they use something else entirely. You're admitting to what I said earlier, there is no longer a strictly local search function (it existed before, also on 8.1), everything you search is beamed to Microsoft's Bing servers and I find that, by their own "Scroggled" campaign standards, completely unacceptable.

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Can anyone explain why you would want to disable Cortana if your personalization option have already disabled her "assistant"-related stuff and she's basically a glorified Bing?

Because of that. Why should your local search queries now be mandatorily sent to Microsoft's servers? Do you see where this is going? This is a very underhanded way for them to know what's on your local storage. It's the grossest privacy violation coming from Redmond that I can remember.
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Just install Start10 and hide cortana. No need to go crazy people...
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