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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Its not that I don't get it, its that I don't care and am totally fine with web results showing up as well as local results. I just don't see it as a problem at all and it can sometimes be useful to not have to open a browser and go to a search engine when I want to find some info from the web. The thing I don't like is all the hyperbole you attach to every MS and Win10 feature/policy. MS is not the SS coming to bust your door down and drag you off to the gestapo, get real. They are a big company that has identified a major market shift in their main product and are attempting to find different ways of making an OS profitable as the old way of selling Windows is just not going to keep them afloat in this day and age.

I would also add that I still don't see what difference it makes to you and the others in these threads what MS does with Win10 considering you have stated so many times that you refuse to ever use it. They could openly admit to turning on your web cam and watching you sleep at night and it shouldn't matter to you because have been quite clear you will never use Win10...

You are missing the point on several accounts:

1. Having web results always showing up as well as local results implies that what would otherwise be a local search query, say the financial records that you don't keep on your phone, banking information, personal and family files of multiple categories - photos, videos, documents, spreadsheets, etc, the file name you're searching for is now going to be transmitted across the Internet and, legally speaking, you are now afforded a lot less privacy because those search terms, which were strictly local before and contained within your system, are now crossing your router barrier and onto the Internet. This is a major downgrade in global privacy. If you lived in a country that wasn't always a democracy, you'd better understand what is at stake and wouldn't make historical mockery of it. This isn't about having an "ohhh super super secret" you want to hide from everybody, it's about a founding principle.

2. You're distorting what I've been saying all along, in fact you're flat out lying about it, which is serious. Why do you think I post in these threads? Contrary to you, who always comes in here with a Leslie Nielsen type of acting in the movie Naked Gun "All right, move on, nothing to see here, please disperse, I don't care about this issue, it isn't important, Windows 10 is working fine for me.", I've said multiple times that I wanted to use Windows 10, in fact I also wanted to use Windows 8, so much so I was one of the participants in the Windows Developer Preview thread back in 2011, but for different reasons ended up finding both to be unacceptable downgrades compared to Windows 7 on fundamental issues.

I'm probably not alone in the group that wanted to like Windows 10 after the Windows 8 debacle. I just couldn't after we learned about its conditions and the way Microsoft intended and made it work for them. But just so it is clear, I even stated in a thread more than nine hours before this post of yours my conditions to use Windows 10. Since doing 180's is perfectly possible with Microsoft (see Xbox One), I don't think it's impossible either.


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The end justifies the means. confused.gif

Obviously not for the people complaining in this thread but for MS, absolutely. I just don't feel any motivation to get all worked up about any of this stuff because I don't care. Win10 works great for me and that's really all that i care about. Its the same reason I don't care about what Google is doing with Android on my Note 5. I don't make any silly distinctions between a PC OS and a phone OS, its all the same thing. I would bet that 95% of the public don't care about this stuff either...

That's the fundamental difference in opinion between you and many of us. We think that you are flat out wrong.


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After spending some time trying to get W7 to work on Skylake, and after eventually getting it to be somewhat stable, I ended up biting the bullet and reluctantly went back to W10. It definitely has its improvements, some less evident until you switch back and forth, I just wish they'd release a version that keeps these 'features' as choices... Like instead of dumbing down the entire platform and forcing us all use Cortana and be datamined, why not release a no frills "power user" edition for an extra 100 bucks or so that leaves us with the choices of what we want (or don't want, for that matter) on our OS? If they did that, it'd be the first time I actually buy a Windows OS in 15+ years, and I'd actually support MS with a smile on my face.

I guess forcing ads for everyone (or datamining us like commodities) is their cheeky way of battling piracy, in the end.

The irony here is that Windows 10 Pro has been on sale since the beginning for $199. With the latest moves of not allowing Pro users to block access to the Store and now this new batch of Group Policy options removal, I have no idea how they think they will sell any of them, the OS is unfit for professional use. If this was their idea, they should have made it so from the beginning so people and small and medium companies knew what they were in for because this is a blatant bait and switch to the much more expensive Enterprise edition, and that is if you're a company. If you're a single person, good luck managing to get your hands on a valid Enterprise license.


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I just upgraded from Win8.1 to 10 in a little bit over a week ago. I can still go back to Win 8.1...is my key still valid?

I may keep Win10 in my laptop but 8.1 is the way to go it seems.smile.gif

Yes, your key is still valid.


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I just upgraded from Win8.1 to 10 in a little bit over a week ago. I can still go back to Win 8.1...is my key still valid?

I may keep Win10 in my laptop but 8.1 is the way to go it seems.smile.gif

Seeing how you have an i7-6900K, you seem to like to stay up to date with Intel's CPUs. In that case, Win10 is the way to go, because nothing older will work with new Intel CPUs.


Broadwell-E is on the X99 platform, which was already around when Windows 7 was still under mainstream support. There is no support problem with it, either for Windows 7 or 8.1. And given that he has an 8 core 6900K, I'd say that he's fine for years to come. When he upgrades one day, he can see what's available then, both in terms of hardware and software.
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You are missing the point on several accounts:

1. Having web results always showing up as well as local results implies that what would otherwise be a local search query, say the financial records that you don't keep on your phone, banking information, personal and family files of multiple categories - photos, videos, documents, spreadsheets, etc, the file name you're searching for is now going to be transmitted across the Internet and, legally speaking, you are now afforded a lot less privacy because those search terms, which were strictly local before and contained within your system, are now crossing your router barrier and onto the Internet. This is a major downgrade in global privacy. If you lived in a country that wasn't always a democracy, you'd better understand what is at stake and wouldn't make historical mockery of it. This isn't about having an "ohhh super super secret" you want to hide from everybody, it's about a founding principle.

2. You're distorting what I've been saying all along, in fact you're flat out lying about it, which is serious. Why do you think I post in these threads? Contrary to you, who always comes in here with a Leslie Nielsen type of acting in the movie Naked Gun "All right, move on, nothing to see here, please disperse, I don't care about this issue, it isn't important, Windows 10 is working fine for me.", I've said multiple times that I wanted to use Windows 10, in fact I also wanted to use Windows 8, so much so I was one of the participants in the Windows Developer Preview thread back in 2011, but for different reasons ended up finding both to be unacceptable downgrades compared to Windows 7 on fundamental issues.

I'm probably not alone in the group that wanted to like Windows 10 after the Windows 8 debacle. I just couldn't after we learned about its conditions and the way Microsoft intended and made it work for them. But just so it is clear, I even stated in a thread more than nine hours before this post of yours my conditions to use Windows 10. Since doing 180's is perfectly possible with Microsoft (see Xbox One), I don't think it's impossible either.
That's the fundamental difference in opinion between you and many of us. We think that you are flat out wrong.
The irony here is that Windows 10 Pro has been on sale since the beginning for $199. With the latest moves of not allowing Pro users to block access to the Store and now this new batch of Group Policy options removal, I have no idea how they think they will sell any of them, the OS is unfit for professional use. If this was their idea, they should have made it so from the beginning so people and small and medium companies knew what they were in for because this is a blatant bait and switch to the much more expensive Enterprise edition, and that is if you're a company. If you're a single person, good luck managing to get your hands on a valid Enterprise license.
Yes, your key is still valid.
Broadwell-E is on the X99 platform, which was already around when Windows 7 was still under mainstream support. There is no support problem with it, either for Windows 7 or 8.1. And given that he has an 8 core 6900K, I'd say that he's fine for years to come. When he upgrades one day, he can see what's available then, both in terms of hardware and software.

I went and bought an OEM key for $30 off one of those key sellers as i was on a non kosher 8.1 install and didn't really want to "upgrade" to 10 and not have my own activation key. That said i can agree that in its default state W10 is not really setup for professional use. I really dont think they were even targeting professionals with this OS as much as they wanted just the average consumer to upgrade. I already uninstalled the windows store and all the other apps that i know i would never use and once that was done i felt that i had a pretty clean OS tongue.gif

I also believe MS knew how their OSes were being easily pirated and that in turn was hurting their bottom line. The idea for Windows 10 was brilliant, sell a new OS for "free" that collected all your user data, and had built in advertising. They could then sell that data they collected and also make plenty of money off all the advertising. I think their plan is working quite well when steam survey is reporting almost 50% of users on W10, and MS's own numbers of machines running W10.

I dont like what they're doing either, but the OS itself is a step up from W7 and 8, and for a savvy user you can configure it for minimal data collection and tracking. Unfortunately i dont think we'll ever see another windows xp experience ever again, so Linux is looking like the light at the end of the tunnel.
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Read more news, mate smile.gif Future Intel chips will not work with any Windows older than 10.

Is that official or just rumors?

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I recently installed W10 like 3 days ago and disabled all the "stuff" including cortana and i'm fully updated, whats the problem again?
Maybe they will remove option to disable all the stuff. biggrin.gif
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Is that official or just rumors?

Why are you asking me, just Google it!
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http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/16/10780876/microsoft-windows-support-policy-new-processors-skylake

Note that this is what Microsoft saids, couldn't find anything from Intel themselves.
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After updating to latest Windows 10 Pro I found that none of the privacy settings are changed, every single setting remained disabled including Cortana. Only the bloatapps are back which I removed in 2 minutes with CCleaner.
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After updating to latest Windows 10 Pro I found that none of the privacy settings are changed, every single setting remained disabled including Cortana. Only the bloatapps are back which I removed in 2 minutes with CCleaner.

Same experience here.
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After updating to latest Windows 10 Pro I found that none of the privacy settings are changed, every single setting remained disabled including Cortana. Only the bloatapps are back which I removed in 2 minutes with CCleaner.

 

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Same experience here.

 

Did you guys check for new remote connections with cports?

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Did you guys check for new remote connections with cports?

Had as much tracking blocked as I could find since previous builds, but yeah... good tip, have to check for new ones.
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Did you guys check for new remote connections with cports?

Had as much tracking blocked as I could find since previous builds, but yeah... good tip, have to check for new ones.

Any results?

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