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But Fiji is GCN1.3, not VLIW4 thumb.gif

Whatever makes you feel better supporting AMD.
What is vliw4? You're not making any sense...

It's the card in your sig rig?
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Well this confirms my suspicions regarding Pascal, Nvidia pushed it to stupid high clocks just to be competitive against the previous architecture and make it look more impressive than it actually is.

I have now tried 1070 and 1080 and I was pretty disappointed. Smoothness felt worse, may be because of the dpc latency issues, but performance was lacking too.

I have an above average 980 Ti chip, but still, it matched a 1080 FE (stock) in most games/benchmarks, and beat the 1070 in everything. This is an one year old card.
With maximum OC on the 1080 (~2.1 GHz) it was 10-15% faster at 1440p.

I'm not changing card, buying new block, spending time on custom firmware / finding maximum stable OC for such a little increase in performance. Waste of time and money.

I'm passing on Pascal for sure, even the Titan and Ti can't make me buy it. Maxwell on shrink + small tweaks, nah.. Volta will probably be my next Nvidia architechture, trying out Vega in the meantime. If Zen is any good, I might even build a complete AMD rig.
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1 Maxwell CUDA = 1.5 SP, Pascal CUDA = 2 SP.

Unless you want to do a clock for clock.

Here is the thing though, when we look at GTX 1060 vs RX 480, the 480 has 80% more shader cores but trades blows with the 1060 yes, but the 1060 has a major clock speed advantage (about 50%). There are other differences in that RX 480 has more TMUs, but less ROPs too but that starts to get too complicated in comparison so if we focus on just the clock speed and core differences, the Pascal arch really only has something like a 30% advantage over Polaris in the only comparison test we have so far.

That's why I said "unless you want to do clock for clock"
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FuryX also had 4096SP. 1070 has 1920CUDA.

The fact that 1 CUDA beats 2 SPs most pf the time is pretty good.
- Assuming that all 4096 SPs are being used all the time
- Did not account for clock speed difference
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FuryX also had 4096SP. 1070 has 1920CUDA.

The fact that 1 CUDA beats 2 SPs most pf the time is pretty good.
- Assuming that all 4096 SPs are being used all the time
- Did not account for clock speed difference

Let's compare the 1080 to the R9 290 clock for clock then.

They have the same number of cores..
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Congratulations, you realised the Fury line aren't the 6xxx line.
Captain here: 6870 is vliw5 and nice try, btw.
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What is vliw4? You're not making any sense...

VLIW4 was the name for the architecture that powered the Radeon HD 6900 series. It was part of the Terascale platform that preceded GCN.
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Congratulations, you realised the Fury line aren't the 6xxx line.
Captain here: 6870 is vliw5 and nice try, btw.

Didn;t realize 6800 was a rabrand.
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VLIW4 was the name for the architecture that powered the Radeon HD 6900 series. It was part of the Terascale platform that preceded GCN.
What is the point, then? Obviously, someone thinks blurting out the obviously false opinion validates a notion which is lost on me.
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So? 980Ti have more transistors(8 billion vs 7.2 billion) and CUDA cores(2816 vs 2560), it shouldn't be a surprise its IPC is comparable with 1080
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