Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Rumors and Unconfirmed Articles › [Motley Fool] Intel Corporation May Be Launching New Kaby Lake CPUs for Enthusiasts Soon
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Motley Fool] Intel Corporation May Be Launching New Kaby Lake CPUs for Enthusiasts Soon - Page 2

post #11 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikjadoon View Post

I was just about to post that. A 4c/8t @ 112W TDP....that's a 23% increase in TDP.....what is that, a 4.5GHz boost clock?

i7-4820K
4c/8t Ivy Bridge
3.8GHz boost
130W TDP

10MB cache

i7-3770K
4c/8t Ivy Bridge
3.9GHz boost
77W TDP

8MB cache

Where are those 53W going!?

Wasn't the 4820k a cut down chip from a 6 core CPU?

Maybe the extra wattage came from leaky chips. I doubt the memory controller adds that much, but I wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong.
post #12 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by magnek View Post

For some reason CPUs with the same suffix and same #cores are given the same TDP. For example both 4790K and 4690K have 88W TDP, even though the i5 doesn't have HT and is clocked 500 MHz lower.

I suspect it's the same case with 4820K, because both 4930K and 4960X were also 130W.

Oh, waddup....you're right. I've never realized this.

"We’re creating the maximum possible CPU load, including its x86 cores, the FPU, the cache and the IGP, and then putting power consumption under a microscope. To better illustrate the outcome, each processor gets its own graph, offering a clearer view of the differences between individual performance and load states.

The Core i5-6600K remains relatively frugal with an average of 73W, whereas the i7-6700K helps itself to a full 100W (a 27W delta). Even though the i7 is Hyper-Threaded, allowing it to be better-utilized, with an average clock rate that's 300MHz higher, our measurement just isn't really acceptable, particularly since it's 5W over the CPU's claimed TDP."
The 2013 Build
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
--- SOLD --- --- SOLD ---  --- SOLD --- --- SOLD --- 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB ASUS DRW-24B3ST (24X DVD burner) Noctua NH-U14S w/ NH-T1 TIM Windows 10 Pro (x64) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE w/ Lightboost @ 120Hz Ducky Shine III (MX Brown w/ Red backlights) Kingwin LZP-1000 (1000W) PSU Corsair Carbide Air 540 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus (Precision Control model) - Sta... 
  hide details  
Reply
The 2013 Build
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
--- SOLD --- --- SOLD ---  --- SOLD --- --- SOLD --- 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB ASUS DRW-24B3ST (24X DVD burner) Noctua NH-U14S w/ NH-T1 TIM Windows 10 Pro (x64) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE w/ Lightboost @ 120Hz Ducky Shine III (MX Brown w/ Red backlights) Kingwin LZP-1000 (1000W) PSU Corsair Carbide Air 540 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus (Precision Control model) - Sta... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #13 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shogon View Post

Wasn't the 4820k a cut down chip from a 6 core CPU?

Maybe the extra wattage came from leaky chips. I doubt the memory controller adds that much, but I wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong.

True. Which I think was cut down from an 8-core chip, haha. I just missed your post; it seems like Intel overestimates TDP on 4c/4t parts and underestimates them slightly on 4c/8t parts. So, while the i5-6600K has a lower TDP than 91W, Intel just never changes it, seemingly.

Possibly the same on the i7-4820K vs i7-4960x. 4c/8t vs 6c/12t, but same TDP!
The 2013 Build
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
--- SOLD --- --- SOLD ---  --- SOLD --- --- SOLD --- 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB ASUS DRW-24B3ST (24X DVD burner) Noctua NH-U14S w/ NH-T1 TIM Windows 10 Pro (x64) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE w/ Lightboost @ 120Hz Ducky Shine III (MX Brown w/ Red backlights) Kingwin LZP-1000 (1000W) PSU Corsair Carbide Air 540 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus (Precision Control model) - Sta... 
  hide details  
Reply
The 2013 Build
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
--- SOLD --- --- SOLD ---  --- SOLD --- --- SOLD --- 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB ASUS DRW-24B3ST (24X DVD burner) Noctua NH-U14S w/ NH-T1 TIM Windows 10 Pro (x64) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE w/ Lightboost @ 120Hz Ducky Shine III (MX Brown w/ Red backlights) Kingwin LZP-1000 (1000W) PSU Corsair Carbide Air 540 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus (Precision Control model) - Sta... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #14 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikjadoon View Post

True. Which I think was cut down from an 8-core chip, haha. I just missed your post; it seems like Intel overestimates TDP on 4c/4t parts and underestimates them slightly on 4c/8t parts. So, while the i5-6600K has a lower TDP than 91W, Intel just never changes it, seemingly.

Possibly the same on the i7-4820K vs i7-4960x. 4c/8t vs 6c/12t, but same TDP!

I might be wrong but Intel was sort of nice to us for Ivy-E. Sandy-E was derived from a cut down 8 core if I remember, and Ivy-E a 6 core.

I just think Intel is sort of lazy when it comes to TDP ratings. Or they just simplify the whole process to make it easier / cheaper somehow.
post #15 of 36
I think lazy and cheaper go hand in hand in this case. biggrin.gif
post #16 of 36
Give me coffee lake or Zen.
 
Media Server
(12 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 4770K MSI Z97S Krait XFX RX 480 Black Edition XFX RX 480 Black Edition 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
G.Skill Trident X 2666mhz Intel 530 Sandisk Extreme Pro LG WH14NS40 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG WH16NS40 Noctua NH-D14 Win 10 64-Bit BenQ XL2730Z 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G710+ Seasonic Platinum 1000w Fractal Design R5 Zowie FK1+ 
Mouse PadOtherOther
XTrac Ripper XXL  4 x Vardar F-4 120mm (2x NH-D14, 2x Bottom Intake) 3 x Vardar F-3 140mm Intake (two front, one side) 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Celeron J1800 QNAP Proprietary  Intel HD Graphics Crucial 8GB Kit 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4TB Western Digital Red Pro 4TB Western Digital Red Pro 4TB Western Digital Red Pro 4TB Western Digital Red Pro 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Stock Embedded Linux External, 96 W, 100-240 V TS-451 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Media Server
(12 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 4770K MSI Z97S Krait XFX RX 480 Black Edition XFX RX 480 Black Edition 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
G.Skill Trident X 2666mhz Intel 530 Sandisk Extreme Pro LG WH14NS40 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG WH16NS40 Noctua NH-D14 Win 10 64-Bit BenQ XL2730Z 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G710+ Seasonic Platinum 1000w Fractal Design R5 Zowie FK1+ 
Mouse PadOtherOther
XTrac Ripper XXL  4 x Vardar F-4 120mm (2x NH-D14, 2x Bottom Intake) 3 x Vardar F-3 140mm Intake (two front, one side) 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Celeron J1800 QNAP Proprietary  Intel HD Graphics Crucial 8GB Kit 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4TB Western Digital Red Pro 4TB Western Digital Red Pro 4TB Western Digital Red Pro 4TB Western Digital Red Pro 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Stock Embedded Linux External, 96 W, 100-240 V TS-451 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 36
probably the same kind of release we had for broadwell.

quiet just a few friends over nothing big.
Gaming Rig
(15 items)
 
Sons Rig
(11 items)
 
File Server
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Ryzen 1700x ASUS Prime X370 Pro Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16gb's Team Select 3200Mhz RGB  Crucial M500 SSD 240gb Corsair H55 Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorMonitorPowerCase
ASUS PB287Q 4K Monitor HTC Vive Coolermaster Silent Pro M 1000W Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Razer Deathadder 2013 Steelseries Qck Mass Super Thick Cloth Mouse Pad Genius SW-G2.1 1250 4PC Gaming Speakers 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3770k Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Galaxy Geforce GTX 780 Galaxy Geforce GTX 780 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16 Gb's G.Skill DDR3 1866 Crucial M500 SSD 240Gb Coolit ECO C240 Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorPowerCase
Benq G2420HD Coolermaster Silent Pro 1000 Watt Deepcool Kendomen 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Core i3 2120 Supermicro X9SCM-F 4 Gb Kingston 1600mhz DDR3 ECC 12 Segate 2tb drives (RAID 6) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSPower
ADATA SP600 SSD 24 Toshiba DT01ACA200 drives (2 RAID 6's) Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit. OCZ ZT750 Supermicro PWS-665-PQ 
CaseOtherOtherOther
Norco 4020 and Norco 4224 LSI 9260-4i Raid Card Intel RES2SV240 20 port Expander. HP SAS 24 por... Voltaire 410Ex Hca Infiniband HBA 
  hide details  
Reply
Gaming Rig
(15 items)
 
Sons Rig
(11 items)
 
File Server
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Ryzen 1700x ASUS Prime X370 Pro Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16gb's Team Select 3200Mhz RGB  Crucial M500 SSD 240gb Corsair H55 Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorMonitorPowerCase
ASUS PB287Q 4K Monitor HTC Vive Coolermaster Silent Pro M 1000W Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Razer Deathadder 2013 Steelseries Qck Mass Super Thick Cloth Mouse Pad Genius SW-G2.1 1250 4PC Gaming Speakers 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3770k Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Galaxy Geforce GTX 780 Galaxy Geforce GTX 780 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16 Gb's G.Skill DDR3 1866 Crucial M500 SSD 240Gb Coolit ECO C240 Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorPowerCase
Benq G2420HD Coolermaster Silent Pro 1000 Watt Deepcool Kendomen 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Core i3 2120 Supermicro X9SCM-F 4 Gb Kingston 1600mhz DDR3 ECC 12 Segate 2tb drives (RAID 6) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSPower
ADATA SP600 SSD 24 Toshiba DT01ACA200 drives (2 RAID 6's) Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit. OCZ ZT750 Supermicro PWS-665-PQ 
CaseOtherOtherOther
Norco 4020 and Norco 4224 LSI 9260-4i Raid Card Intel RES2SV240 20 port Expander. HP SAS 24 por... Voltaire 410Ex Hca Infiniband HBA 
  hide details  
Reply
post #18 of 36
just wonderin if kaby lake -x will have 10c or do I have to wait for cannon lake?
post #19 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by nagle3092 View Post

Give me coffee lake or Zen.

How i read this: Give me coffee, lake, and zen.
My System
(14 items)
 
  
Reply
My System
(14 items)
 
  
Reply
post #20 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shogon View Post

I might be wrong but Intel was sort of nice to us for Ivy-E. Sandy-E was derived from a cut down 8 core if I remember, and Ivy-E a 6 core.

I just think Intel is sort of lazy when it comes to TDP ratings. Or they just simplify the whole process to make it easier / cheaper somehow.

Quote:
Originally Posted by magnek View Post

I think lazy and cheaper go hand in hand in this case. biggrin.gif

bahaha, if it the shoe fits... So....then. I don't understand the point of Kaby Lake -X, except milking us poor 4-core users in having to buy a more expensive motherboard. frown.gif What do we gain? No extra PCIe lanes, no quad-channel RAM...maybe, just maybe, a soldered die? Hmm...
Quote:
Originally Posted by hhuey5 View Post

just wonderin if kaby lake -x will have 10c or do I have to wait for cannon lake?

Kaby Lake X, from the leaks, is just a 4c/8t part. frown.gif

The 2013 Build
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
--- SOLD --- --- SOLD ---  --- SOLD --- --- SOLD --- 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB ASUS DRW-24B3ST (24X DVD burner) Noctua NH-U14S w/ NH-T1 TIM Windows 10 Pro (x64) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE w/ Lightboost @ 120Hz Ducky Shine III (MX Brown w/ Red backlights) Kingwin LZP-1000 (1000W) PSU Corsair Carbide Air 540 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus (Precision Control model) - Sta... 
  hide details  
Reply
The 2013 Build
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
--- SOLD --- --- SOLD ---  --- SOLD --- --- SOLD --- 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB ASUS DRW-24B3ST (24X DVD burner) Noctua NH-U14S w/ NH-T1 TIM Windows 10 Pro (x64) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VG248QE w/ Lightboost @ 120Hz Ducky Shine III (MX Brown w/ Red backlights) Kingwin LZP-1000 (1000W) PSU Corsair Carbide Air 540 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus (Precision Control model) - Sta... 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Rumors and Unconfirmed Articles
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Rumors and Unconfirmed Articles › [Motley Fool] Intel Corporation May Be Launching New Kaby Lake CPUs for Enthusiasts Soon