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So what is this website?

who owns it in the thread? biggrin.gif
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bahaha, if it the shoe fits... So....then. I don't understand the point of Kaby Lake -X, except milking us poor 4-core users in having to buy a more expensive motherboard. frown.gif What do we gain? No extra PCIe lanes, no quad-channel RAM...maybe, just maybe, a soldered die? Hmm...

Yeah I dunno either. At least 3820 and 4820K offered more PCIe lanes and quad channel support. Maybe this Kaby Lake-X is the fabled 5GHz+ factory overclock chips. devil.gif
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I think lazy and cheaper go hand in hand in this case. biggrin.gif
Ditto. And cheap thermal paste instead of solder as well! (Though I thought after a certain wattage rating they use solder; like they did for Sandy Bridge. Or maybe that was a fluke case considering Ivy, Haswell, Broadwell, etc)
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Yeah I dunno either. At least 3820 and 4820K offered more PCIe lanes and quad channel support. Maybe this Kaby Lake-X is the fabled 5GHz+ factory overclock chips. devil.gif

Hmmm...possibly! I mean, TBH, that would move plenty of units. People would be putting money hand over fist into Intel's hands.

Maybe we were right in that other thread...the art of overclocking is dead. Just pay [xxxx] more and they'll sell you one "pre-overclocked."
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Ditto. And cheap thermal paste instead of solder as well! (Though I thought after a certain wattage rating they use solder; like they did for Sandy Bridge. Or maybe that was a fluke case considering Ivy, Haswell, Broadwell, etc)

Well, I think it was actually die size, right? That, if the die was too small, the solder would crack and splinter over time?

http://overclocking.guide/the-truth-about-cpu-soldering/
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The art of overclocking died when Intel introduced "unlocked" CPUs. Remember the days where you didn't have to pay for permission to overclock? But anyway I digress.

So about no longer using solder for IHS. I think as someone pointed out it's more to do with the EU ban on lead solder than die size. I mean P4 Prescott's die size was 135 mm², which is still smaller than Ivy Bridge 3770K (160mm²) and Haswell 4770K (177mm²) quads, but yet Prescott still used a soldered IHS.
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The art of overclocking died when Intel introduced "unlocked" CPUs. Remember the days where you didn't have to pay for permission to overclock? But anyway I digress.

So about no longer using solder for IHS. I think as someone pointed out it's more to do with the EU ban on lead solder than die size. I mean P4 Prescott's die size was 135 mm², which is still smaller than Ivy Bridge 3770K (160mm²) and Haswell 4770K (177mm²) quads, but yet Prescott still used a soldered IHS.

There is no EU lead solder ban, this is just simple "Intel mayonnaise power=high temperatures=overclockers falling into a coma". biggrin.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1560598/apu-amd-a10-7870k-godavari-heatspreader-soldered
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The art of overclocking died when Intel introduced "unlocked" CPUs. Remember the days where you didn't have to pay for permission to overclock? But anyway I digress.

So about no longer using solder for IHS. I think as someone pointed out it's more to do with the EU ban on lead solder than die size. I mean P4 Prescott's die size was 135 mm², which is still smaller than Ivy Bridge 3770K (160mm²) and Haswell 4770K (177mm²) quads, but yet Prescott still used a soldered IHS.

Bahaha, yes. frown.gif Those days are long gone.... frown.gif

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Err, good point. Maybe it's a combination of the EU ban and die size. In 2007, Intel went lead-free. The new lead-free solder is more prone to solder cracking, so now this solder can't be used on the "smaller" dies.

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Kaby's main bonus is the 200 chipset having native usb3.1 and thunderbolt support, 3d xpoint SSD support and probably more chipset PCIE lanes for faster NVME SSDs.


Waiting for xpoint and more lanes so I can begin building my two compute nodes for my homelab. Just want that "set" before I splurge for long term.
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Waiting for xpoint and more lanes so I can begin building my two compute nodes for my homelab. Just want that "set" before I splurge for long term.

care to expand ? im getting tired of quads in laptops limiting how many vms i can run together :/
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