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There's nothing to defend in false advertising. It's being an apologist.
It's also dishonest and enables the perpetrator to hide the truth and continue to lie without fear of consequences.
post #122 of 281
nVidia has gotten away with a bunch of dishonest stuff. People have to realize that they vote with their money. So yes I do hold a grudge against people that buy nVidia or defend nVidia after such a fiasco.
post #123 of 281
Really annoying this isn't an international class action lawsuit, as many Europeans is also effected by this issue, i for one will actually go as far as to say the GTX 970 only had 3 GB of usable VRAM, as the bandwidth speeds dropped off after 3000 MB out of the 4 GB, in theory they should have been suit for have sold a 3 GB card.

Just look at this VRAM benchmark i ran on my GTX 970 G1 Gaming when it started a few years ago, i have highlighted where it drops off completely, so you be the judge is that is usable and in fact worthy of being labeled as 3,5 GB?!



And i live in Denmark Europe so i'm really pissed this settlement likely won't get to me. mad.gif

And most games i played on my 2560x1440p screen only used about 3 GB ram out of the 4GB and the benchmarks shows why that is !

So Never buying their junk if Radeon has a card that can match their performance.
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@Bear304
Did you use another GPU as your primary display when testing the 970? If not, then the performance will tank sooner than the 3.5GB barrier due to some of the VRAM already being used by the OS for things like Aero and you hit system ram faster.
post #125 of 281
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@Bear304
Did you use another GPU as your primary display when testing the 970? If not, then the performance will tank sooner than the 3.5GB barrier due to some of the VRAM already being used by the OS for things like Aero and you hit system ram faster.

No i just ran the Nai's benchmark, and i used my single GTX 970.

Those things you mentioned should not really effect the bandwidth that much, it is just the card architecture that is crap. And i used GPU-Z to check the VRAM the card uses. I only noticed alot of stuttering in GTA V which used 3,4 GB but could have been the drivers.

But was perfectly happy with the GTX 970 right until i heard about the Nvidia cover-up lie. and then i BIOS hacked it so it can run 1582+ mhz and overclocked the memory to about 1995 mhz (about 10 GHz) and then i didn't really notice the stuttering anymore after that smile.gif

But now i don't thrust Nvidia, and just now it seems they can't even figure out how to make drivers (last few months drivers), so when Radeon releases Vega then i'm selling my card.
post #126 of 281
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So yes I do hold a grudge against people that buy nVidia .
and I hold a grudge against people who hold a grudge against others buying GPUs of their choice when its none of their business
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Why would anyone hold a grudge against a piece of hardware?

The 970 was only my second real DGPU. The first being the R9 270x(which is still cranking away). OH BTW it does have 4gb of Vram. joke

I wasn't aware of all this when I bought my 970. It became a issue AFTER I purchased it. So why would you hold a grudge for that?

I've seen my 970's go over the 3.5gb Vram in BM: Arkham Knight, and The Division, without really any issue. Perhaps the games were change, or the drivers made up for it. I just don't know.

But hey, I could use 60.00. It was false advertising and misleading. Does it mean I won't buy nVidia again? I don't know.....my personal view is that it seems that AMD cards hold up a bit longer, but aren't optimized out of the gate like nVidia.

Maybe that's just me though.
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This is very true, and we should also consider the fact that there is very little we do know, even as enthusiasts, about what goes on with the things we buy.

In addition, and this is the most bothersome part for me, there are lots of people here that are huge apologists for these companies with no monetary benefit for themselves. We only get the implicit benefit of inflating our own product to ourselves by inflating it to others. This is why people defend the components they have, and we actually use spec sheets to pseudo-validate our points and egos. It works in their favor for us to fight about what it better to make ourselves feel better. They don't even have to pay us.

If we were truly objective, their own marketing and PR would not work, and brand loyalty would be ruined. Let this be a wakeup call to those who feel they need to validate themselves based on what they buy.

Agreed. I have some hope, though, that only the "crazy" people are on OCN, haha. I hope the general buying public has stronger critical thinking skills. Some of the justifications and mental gymnastics....are a little freaky.

Exactly. People need to feel validated in their purchases. I get it. You made a choice and now we must justify our choices. See, the weird thing is that there are return periods for a lot of stuff these days. It's not like picking what college you went to: you're pretty much guaranteed 30 days of "well, I changed my mind. Give me my money back."
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Why would anyone hold a grudge against a piece of hardware?

The 970 was only my second real DGPU. The first being the R9 270x(which is still cranking away). OH BTW it does have 4gb of Vram. joke

I wasn't aware of all this when I bought my 970. It became a issue AFTER I purchased it. So why would you hold a grudge for that?

I've seen my 970's go over the 3.5gb Vram in BM: Arkham Knight, and The Division, without really any issue. Perhaps the games were change, or the drivers made up for it. I just don't know.

But hey, I could use 60.00. It was false advertising and misleading. Does it mean I won't buy nVidia again? I don't know.....my personal view is that it seems that AMD cards hold up a bit longer, but aren't optimized out of the gate like nVidia.

Maybe that's just me though.

Say you bought a car that looked brand new and appeared to be in fantastic performing condition

only to find out later once you go over 60Mph it starts to cough and choke and even reducing speed in some situations.

But i mean hey why hold a grunge bruh :3
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Originally Posted by Hequaqua View Post

Why would anyone hold a grudge against a piece of hardware?

The 970 was only my second real DGPU. The first being the R9 270x(which is still cranking away). OH BTW it does have 4gb of Vram. joke

I wasn't aware of all this when I bought my 970. It became a issue AFTER I purchased it. So why would you hold a grudge for that?

I've seen my 970's go over the 3.5gb Vram in BM: Arkham Knight, and The Division, without really any issue. Perhaps the games were change, or the drivers made up for it. I just don't know.

But hey, I could use 60.00. It was false advertising and misleading. Does it mean I won't buy nVidia again? I don't know.....my personal view is that it seems that AMD cards hold up a bit longer, but aren't optimized out of the gate like nVidia.

Maybe that's just me though.
Any company can make a mistake. To not buy their products for one mistake is extreme. But things are getting ridiculous with nVidia lately.
3.5GB vs 4GB
900 was supposed to support async compute
Excessive tessellation
Advertising their cards as FL12_1 while they don't support FL11_1 nor half of 12_0.
Founders Editions

And it has been going on for quite a while... With their TWIMTBP program and stuff like this;
http://techreport.com/news/14707/ubisoft-comments-on-assassin-creed-dx10-1-controversy-updated
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