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The amazing thing, is how many people rose to the defense on NV on this issue. So many people here found the 970 debacle completely acceptable to the point where they were actively ridiculing people for taking up issue with it.

Gonna be hard to argue now that a court of law settled our debate.

Society has taught many people to be corporate apologists. They live to defend the corporations that would as soon take every thing they own for their own success.
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Society has taught many people to be corporate apologists. They live to defend the corporations that would as soon take every thing they own for their own success.

Couldn't have said it better myself, and believe me, I have tried. My god I have tried.
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Society has taught many people to be corporate apologists. They live to defend the corporations that would as soon take every thing they own for their own success.

See, that's the issue. I don't think many people have ever been in upper management in a massive corporation. Or, at least, few of those people frequent OCN. tongue.gif

There's a lot of pressure, but at some point, someone made the choice to gimp the GTX 970 specs in ROPs advertised and full-speed GDDR5 provided. They knew that when they sold it.

It just begs the question...why not honestly advertise your products? If you wanted or needed to take shortcuts, just be upfront about it. Compete honestly.
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Society has taught many people to be corporate apologists. They live to defend the corporations that would as soon take every thing they own for their own success.

I don't really think Society taught people most of this... I've seen what I consider some pretty irrational actions based on brands or sports teams even (lol). I personally have never understood certain actions, but I've never seen anything that made me think it was a learned thing. Mostly because there is zero logic in it. I understood the entire uproar on the 970 but personally the one I had (and sold) always seemed to perform well enough.

I think I might be kind of an AMD fan... I don't currently use their cpu's but I do use Fury X's in all my builds. My 980ti went into my GF's machine.

I only mention that because regardless of what brand I'm using... my 970 never gave me issues. /shrugs

I don't honestly understand the need people have to defend a corporation. They can afford to defend themselves... I just like hardware and I buy some of everything. If it doesn't work for me... I either get my money back or put it on ebay.

*edited* for a bit of clarity and some typo's.. created more typo's to maintain balance.
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See, that's the issue. I don't think many people have ever been in upper management in a massive corporation. Or, at least, few of those people frequent OCN. tongue.gif

There's a lot of pressure, but at some point, someone made the choice to gimp the GTX 970 specs in ROPs advertised and full-speed GDDR5 provided. They knew that when they sold it.

It just begs the question...why not honestly advertise your products? If you wanted or needed to take shortcuts, just be upfront about it. Compete honestly.

The reason is the same reason people cheat on tests and on their taxes. In many cases, the immediate benefit outweighs the future potential cost. This case in particular, they gambled that the risk of getting caught was worth the additional price they charged and the marketing they gave to get the sales. It was even worth the cost of getting caught and settling.

For corporations, sadly, B/C ratio is the only thing that matters. Even when it comes to their own employees.

You learn this the hard way when you do great work, get a raise, get promoted, only to get laid off because someone else messed up the numbers. (Not me personally, but people I know.)
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And with no competition for their suckers, they can simply pass the bill.
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I don't believe i actively defended Nvidia, but i also didn't bash them either. Does that make me not quality for 120$? I think not. I'll be getting minesssss tongue.gif
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The reason is the same reason people cheat on tests and on their taxes. In many cases, the benefit outweighs the cost. This case in particular, they gambled that the risk of getting caught was worth the additional price they charged and the marketing they gave to get the sales. It was even worth the cost of getting caught and settling.

For corporations, sadly, B/C ratio is the only thing that matters. Even when it comes to their own employees.

You learn this the hard way when you do great work, get a raise, get promoted, only to get laid off because someone else messed up the numbers. (Not me personally, but people I know.)

Right? I don't know where the corporate apologist breeding grounds are, but they are seemingly everywhere. Is this astroturfing? Possibly.

I thought your excellent points....were more common? I mean, the same thing probably happened with cigarette companies in the 1930s in the USA. "No, they don't hurt your body. No, why would they sell something that made your life worse? You just hate Malboro, don't you?"


However, I do think it brings up an excellent point about PC hardware. If we tested different GPUs or CPUs blindly, how many would we have to put in the category, "the software felt identical; I couldn't tell the difference."

I feel like a vast majority of our "hubhub" about parts is motivated by specification sheets and benchmarks that observe performance to 5 significant digits.
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The amazing thing, is how many people rose to the defense on NV on this issue. So many people here found the 970 debacle completely acceptable to the point where they were actively ridiculing people for taking up issue with it.

Gonna be hard to argue now that a court of law settled our debate.

The court didn't settle this, nVidia did. lol
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