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I could never hit a limit with century link. They are my only option and my top speed is 1.5mbps. Yes thats right, its pretty sad coming from 60mbps and 100 before that. Only other option is satellite.

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Yep, I used to be in that boat of 1.5mbps when I lived in the mountains about 45 minutes from here. At least here I can get 40mbps.

It is super easy to set up a long range Point-to-Point private back-haul if you have direct line of sight to a population center, or someone's property who has that sight picture. I have clients who have rented basically a shelf in a closet in town, had a high speed service drop to that. Then with some basic planning, back-hauling that out to their home.

Depending on what speeds we are talking, you are looking at a couple hundred for the hardware to do the PtP, up to a few thousand for Gigabit speeds. Then you have the monthly cost of the rent space for the shelf, which ranges from FREE to about what taxes on a phone/DSL service run.

Either way.

If you can see a service location, or see someone that can see a service location, it can be surprisingly easy to get to it yourself. 30, 40 miles away isn't out of the question either.
Can you explain that more I'm not sure what you mean.
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Can you piggy back on that as a provider, or are you just baiting the lawyers?

Can you do this as a means to resell the connection you are trying to extend? No, that would get it shutdown in a hurry by the provider. However, to do it for completely personal use is perfectly fine and legal. As you are just creating a wireless LAN that is private, and falls outside their responsibility.
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Can you explain that more I'm not sure what you mean.

Let's say you live up in the hills, or out in the plains, just somewhere beyond the service area of a cable or fiber provider. Although you are outside of their service area, if you can see a location in that service area, it is possible to set up a link from that location in town to your home.

One example; a client found an office building that let him rent the literal broom closet, for cheap, something like $50 or $60 a month. Came with 24/7 access to the building, even access to a restroom! He then dropped cable service to that building, and set up a PtP from the roof of it to his place. At the end of it, he lives out in Nowhereville, but pushes over 100 Mbps.

From a management perspective, with only rare/few exception, the entire network from the cable modem back to the customer just acts as a normal LAN.
    
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I have CenturyLink as well. But the question is, do you have some other ISP around you that doesn't do this? My only other option is Comcast. So basically it's a duopoly over here.

Yes we do Comcast, and USI Wireless
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I have CenturyLink as well. But the question is, do you have some other ISP around you that doesn't do this? My only other option is Comcast. So basically it's a duopoly over here.

Yes we do Comcast, and USI Wireless

USI Wireless or Fiber? Had their gigabit fiber when I lived in Minneapolis. Was fantastic. Now have Comcast.

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Can you do this as a means to resell the connection you are trying to extend? No, that would get it shutdown in a hurry by the provider. However, to do it for completely personal use is perfectly fine and legal. As you are just creating a wireless LAN that is private, and falls outside their responsibility.
Let's say you live up in the hills, or out in the plains, just somewhere beyond the service area of a cable or fiber provider. Although you are outside of their service area, if you can see a location in that service area, it is possible to set up a link from that location in town to your home.

One example; a client found an office building that let him rent the literal broom closet, for cheap, something like $50 or $60 a month. Came with 24/7 access to the building, even access to a restroom! He then dropped cable service to that building, and set up a PtP from the roof of it to his place. At the end of it, he lives out in Nowhereville, but pushes over 100 Mbps.

From a management perspective, with only rare/few exception, the entire network from the cable modem back to the customer just acts as a normal LAN.

Just curious, but would this be affected by weather? If its line of sight, I'd imagine this to be affected by snowstorms and such, but I wonder about fog or even just rain.
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Just curious, but would this be affected by weather? If its line of sight, I'd imagine this to be affected by snowstorms and such, but I wonder about fog or even just rain.

No, the frequency used isn't impacted by weather, also in this application the beam width itself is so narrow that even noise is non-issue. Especially now given the FCC has opened up spectrum specifically for PtP use only.
    
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As someone who lives in an apartment complex that has an "exclusive deal" with CenturyLink that only offers a maximum connection of 40 down / 5 up I would have to say that this makes me dislike them even more. Their customer service isn't great and they charge quite a bit for sub-par connection speeds with terrible pings. Living in a capital city you wouldn't think it would be hard to get a good ISP but you would be surprised...

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We have 5 computers in the house, plus tablets and phones for me, wife and 3 kids. We went over 3 times in a row after the mysteriously changed to this data usage monitoring. Then the cancelled our account and offered us to a business line, I about fell over laughing at 600 a month. Moved across state lines and have charter now, they seem not to care one way or anther how much we use or what we use it for.
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Meanwhile, my municipal Gigabit fiber provider actually advertises on billboards around town that they have no data caps at all. Local competition in the ISP game is an amazing thing for consumers. Even Comcast has cleaned up their act here in Chattanooga just because EPB is here.
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lol.

company receives free money from government for their network and then gets uppity about overages.

amazing.

And part of that $10 for each 50GB over will be taxes.
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